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#1
05 Apr 2017 15:43
 
 
Here goes nothing:

I've loaned big chunk of my newbie/old gear to promising new players and some
of them never came back and this got me thinking.
Many new players can't afford "proper newbie" items (weapons
especially makes a big difference) while they're using 'recreate' and trying
out different guilds.

While watching Parks and Recreation (google Rent a Swag), this idea popped into
my head.

The idea would be to have some kind of a shop where players could put items up
for rent f.ex. pay x amount of gold per day/week/month/whatever.
- this payment could work as some kind of fail safe and would return those
rented items to the shop if the payment isn't made within a month or so.
- owner of the sets could get some kind of prompt do they want to rent item(s)
x to person y for z amount of time and then accept the rental agreement at the
shop.
- this could also provide older players a way to loan their 2nd, 3rd etc sets
for trustworthy people if they want to make some extra cash instead of letting
your
items gather dust in chests.
- having this kind of option could also make midbie/highbies life easier when
they could f.ex. rent a caster set from the shop and try out those
magical backgrounds(if they've wasted all their money on tank sets, like
me).

Things to consider:
- how to handle people losing your items (an option to set x price for items in
case they get dested/lost/damaged/whatnot?)
- any possible ways to abuse the system

In before someone calls me a greedy cunt, I wasn't planning on making any real
money out of renting sets to newbies, just a way to get those sets back in case
a
newcomer disappears into the mist.

Best retards,
Pork

 
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Porkzar
N e w b i e  H e l p e r
2y, 175d, 4h, 40m, 48s old
Level:
100
 
 
#2
05 Apr 2017 01:39
 
 
Porkzar wrote:
Here goes nothing:

I've loaned big chunk of my newbie/old gear to promising new players and some
of them never came back and this got me thinking.
Many new players can't afford "proper newbie" items (weapons
especially makes a big difference) while they're using 'recreate' and trying
out different guilds.

While watching Parks and Recreation (google Rent a Swag), this idea popped into
my head.

The idea would be to have some kind of a shop where players could put items up
for rent f.ex. pay x amount of gold per day/week/month/whatever.
- this payment could work as some kind of fail safe and would return those
rented items to the shop if the payment isn't made within a month or so.
- owner of the sets could get some kind of prompt do they want to rent item(s)
x to person y for z amount of time and then accept the rental agreement at the
shop.
- this could also provide older players a way to loan their 2nd, 3rd etc sets
for trustworthy people if they want to make some extra cash instead of letting
your
items gather dust in chests.
- having this kind of option could also make midbie/highbies life easier when
they could f.ex. rent a caster set from the shop and try out those
magical backgrounds(if they've wasted all their money on tank sets, like
me).

Things to consider:
- how to handle people losing your items (an option to set x price for items in
case they get dested/lost/damaged/whatnot?)
- any possible ways to abuse the system

In before someone calls me a greedy cunt, I wasn't planning on making any real
money out of renting sets to newbies, just a way to get those sets back in case
a
newcomer disappears into the mist.

Best retards,
Pork
I like the overall idea, but would offer a small tweak. Instead of loaning for
x cash, loan it for x days with automatic return to owner's inventory at boot
the end of that day or if it's going to dest to boot. The eq could get a
temporary stamp to make it unsellable like damogran eq to prevent potential
selling abuse. It doesn't give highbies any real benefit of getting newbie
cash (and they can still save up for their own sets/rooms/chests/guards etc),
the eq is still in use and might even make some midbie stuff more valuable,
the true owner would have little risk which should help make it more
appealing.

 
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Kanis
3y, 29d, 18h, 26m, 1s old
Level:
92
 
 
#3
05 Apr 2017 13:46
 
 
Kanis wrote:
I like the overall idea, but would offer a small tweak. Instead of loaning for
x cash, loan it for x days with automatic return to owner's inventory at boot
the end of that day or if it's going to dest to boot. The eq could get a
temporary stamp to make it unsellable like damogran eq to prevent potential
selling abuse. It doesn't give highbies any real benefit of getting newbie
cash (and they can still save up for their own sets/rooms/chests/guards etc),
the eq is still in use and might even make some midbie stuff more valuable,
the true owner would have little risk which should help make it more
appealing.
That temporary stamp idea sounds good to handle certain aspects. One other idea
related to what you said about returning items to owners inventory, could be
something like this:
Every player gets x amount of chest/container slots (meaning you can put your
own 10-13 slotter chests in) in the shop into which they can dump those
items/sets in, and when the payment/day limit hits, those items would be
returned to those chests instead of player inventory like you said (player
inventory could still work as a last resort if your chests are full in the
shop). Maybe 3-4 chest slots for 100lvl player or something, one slot every
25levels etc?
In a way this could even work as a secondary storage on top of your castle
room, you'd still need to buy them chests and dump them in. Not sure if that
function would be too suffeli in the end, but I'd imagine having few chests
reachable outside your castle in main city/cities might come handy with some
items. Newbies could also use this place as their first storage (not really
sure how those inn lockers? work, or are they any usable) before they find a
player city room.
I think you misunderstood my post, idea wasn't to suck newbies dry, just put
those newbie sets for rental for nominal price (f.ex. 1k per month or
something), the renting/gold digging aspect would only really come in with
those midbie/highbie sets which someone might wanna rent for one whole reinc
etc.

P.S. I can't handle this bat.org editor, excuse me for the lovely editing in
first post (and possibly this one also).

Best retards,
Pork

 
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Porkzar
N e w b i e  H e l p e r
2y, 175d, 20h, 31m, 46s old
Level:
100
 
 
#4
05 Apr 2017 19:57
 
 
Problem in that kind of renting would be attempts to abuse. If the returning
of item would be certain, people could "rent" items for disintigrate/dester
mobs. If there would not be certain return, there would be too high risk for
vandalism. One way to fix it could be level limits for renters or making some
rentable npc items. Anyways somekind of from npc to player system with fixed
set of suitable equipments would be good enough.


 
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Naamafanta
2y, 187d, 17h, 46m, 35s old
Level:
93