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#1
23 Apr 2004 14:14
 
 
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.

 
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Merioli
1y, 58d, 17h, 31m, 45s old
Level:
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#2
23 Apr 2004 16:19
 
 
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.
Only thing as an whiner I could point out is that you'd gain little percentage
of your totals in normal (2) and fast (5) reincs as start-up exp, slow remain
as it is.

Otherwise, its great.

\o/

 
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Cilwand
44d, 15h, 51m, 25s old
Level:
77
 
 
#3
23 Apr 2004 16:19
 
 
Quote:
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.
Only thing as an whiner I could point out is that you\'d gain little percentage
of your totals in normal (2) and fast (5) reincs as start-up exp, slow remain
as it is.

Otherwise, its great.
Only good thing about that reinc system is code. Make a poll and see what opinion people are. Its boring to reinc when you cant do \"any\" explore exp etc. Regaining shit loads of exp time after time to gain your precious exp back. If the current system is here to stay, it would be great if you could do experience without whining your friends to drag you around while you are handles piece of crap. For example: (You get experience by exploring and it is not added to your total worth if you have allready visited the place etc.). Now, it is all whining for party or mipping money. Developing exp regaining system would be an uptune yes. I used to reinc alot and liked to think which reinc I am gonna do next with my friends, now it is simply just too slow and not even fun. \"In my opinion!\"

-Hannah

Ps. Dunno, this should have been in ideas-wanted but well here we go! And yes reincing is salt of this game.

 
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Hannah
1y, 4d, 1h, 5m, 25s old
Level:
95
 
 
#4
23 Apr 2004 18:00
 
 
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.

I was not whining, I anyways reinc every 30 days with slow reinc no matter
what. I was just thinking a solution to peoples whines!

---
:wq!
++B¹

 
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Thiamin
2y, 317d, 7h, 34m, 19s old
Level:
46
 
 
#5
23 Apr 2004 19:32
 
 
Thiamin wrote:
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.

I was not whining, I anyways reinc every 30 days with slow reinc no matter
what. I was just thinking a solution to peoples whines!
Solution to peoples whines. Well, that assumes people whining is a problem
needing of a solution. People whining is not a problem for us, it is a
problem for the one doing the whining. So any idea to 'do this or change
that' in an effort to quell the whines is a flawed idea to begin with, and
therefore should generally be ignored or discarded as a bad idea. Whines
don't mean jack shit.

 
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Elwood
S a g e
1y, 114d, 20h, 5m, 50s old
Level:
155 [Wizard]
 
 
#6
23 Apr 2004 20:24
 
 
Elwood wrote:
Thiamin wrote:
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.

I was not whining, I anyways reinc every 30 days with slow reinc no matter
what. I was just thinking a solution to peoples whines!
Solution to peoples whines. Well, that assumes people whining is a problem
needing of a solution. People whining is not a problem for us, it is a
problem for the one doing the whining. So any idea to 'do this or change
that' in an effort to quell the whines is a flawed idea to begin with, and
therefore should generally be ignored or discarded as a bad idea. Whines
don't mean jack shit.
How come that everytime someone dislikes idea
its condemned as whine. Every single time we
hear chorus of whining about whines, but
once in a while (bit rarely actually) arches
listen us and change things back.
If noone ever complained (and changes werent
removed) this game would go to some sorry
dead end thus losing its players.

For example we got numeral stats removed.
Even then people complained about complainers.
But us whiners won then and Its not hard to
guess that even those brown noses were happy
for change back.

Moral is 'From satisfaction begins declining'.


 
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Capula
1y, 210d, 8h, 7m, 6s old
Level:
100
 
 
#7
23 Apr 2004 20:27
 
 
Capula wrote:
Elwood wrote:
Thiamin wrote:
Merioli wrote:
It rocks. Dont change a thing about it; not the figures, not the design, not
the way it\'s done or anything.

The reinc system is an awesome piece of code and it\'s actually very well
tuned in my opinion. Sure during the reinc I might be a bit cranky and bitch
about it too but the fact is that it\'s better then any other we\'ve had.

A big huggly thank you to the persons involed in coding above mentioned.

I was not whining, I anyways reinc every 30 days with slow reinc no matter
what. I was just thinking a solution to peoples whines!
Solution to peoples whines. Well, that assumes people whining is a problem
needing of a solution. People whining is not a problem for us, it is a
problem for the one doing the whining. So any idea to 'do this or change
that' in an effort to quell the whines is a flawed idea to begin with, and
therefore should generally be ignored or discarded as a bad idea. Whines
don't mean jack shit.
How come that everytime someone dislikes idea
its condemned as whine. Every single time we
hear chorus of whining about whines, but
once in a while (bit rarely actually) arches
listen us and change things back.
If noone ever complained (and changes werent
removed) this game would go to some sorry
dead end thus losing its players.

For example we got numeral stats removed.
Even then people complained about complainers.
But us whiners won then and Its not hard to
guess that even those brown noses were happy
for change back.

Moral is 'From satisfaction begins declining'.
Implementing an idea solely for the prupose of quelling whines is bad. That
was my point. If the origin of the whine is a valid point, then action can be
taken. But "let's do this to stop people from whining" is the worst reason to
do anything.

 
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Elwood
S a g e
1y, 114d, 21h, 5m, 52s old
Level:
155 [Wizard]
 
 
#8
24 Apr 2004 07:21
 
 
perhaps take the number of whines and think that maybe the "good idea" you had
wasn't such a good idea? As i've said before, seems to be that the old saying
"The needs of the many outweigh those of the few" has been twisted around here
in bat.

 
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Shaggydope
278d, 0h, 8m, 40s old
Level:
73
 
 
#9
24 Apr 2004 16:47
 
 
Shaggydope wrote:
perhaps take the number of whines and think that maybe the "good idea" you had
wasn't such a good idea? As i've said before, seems to be that the old saying
"The needs of the many outweigh those of the few" has been twisted around here
in bat.
I don't know how it got this way, but players have learned that if they whine
long enough, they will get what they want. Current administration is scared
of whines for some reason and will do anything to fix them. This is a screwed
up system that is in place now, and like I said, I don't know how it got this
way. SBit by bit, year by year this is what Bat has turned into. People who
do not know the inner workings of the game asking/whining for things and admin
who know the inner workings of the game making questionable changes just to
shut you fuckers up. The needs of the many DO outweigh those of the few.
Whiners are still in the minority, the vast minority, and making changes to
shut you up is just bad decision making. We have like 1000's and 1000's of
players. 10 of them whine. So this means it is a valid idea? Let's look at
the multiple thousands of players that do not whine about some of our changes
and decisions, and by your logic, it means they ARE good ideas.

Whiners ask for changes that directly benefit them and has unseen side-effects
complications unseeable by mortals. Nothing wrong with mortals, you just
don't see the code or know how everything interacts. What seems like an easy,
simple change can actually be very complicated to implement, could just be
impossible, or may have even been tried once with failed results. Sometimes a
whine can actually be a good idea, sometimes they are great ideas and get
implemented and makes everyone happy. But usually, it just an extremely small
'inner circle' of people that would rather cry than adapt.

 
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Elwood
S a g e
1y, 115d, 3h, 20m, 25s old
Level:
155 [Wizard]
 
 
#10
24 Apr 2004 16:59
 
 
Right, we're utterly and completely devastated if someone whines
about a tune. I mean, the whole administration is so morbidly scared
that some person somewhere wouldn't possibly like us or the little
feature we just implemented. See, this is us shaking...

To put it bluntly, we don't give a crap about general whining (whines
for the sake of just making noise). Just like this little post of
yours proves, it's purely human nature that people complain. However,
it's downright foolish, childish and speaks of a weak ego, if one is
incapable of admitting that a tune or feature doesn't work as well as
it was intended.

Whether this has anything to do with the reinc system, I don't know.
Seems to me that it's working quite fine actually, this post is more
a rebuttal to vague claims about what motivates "the administrations"
decisions.

++ Gore

 
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Gore
A r c h w i z a r d
6y, 177d, 14h, 17m, 25s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]