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#1
30 Oct 2007 20:14
 
 
here's further reading for you guys who think that the rule is too harsh and
that you should be allowed to post any shit if you warn that something is not
work safe

Excerpts from Finnish penal code:
Chapter 17:
...
Section 18 - Distribution of sexually obscene pictures (650/2004)
(1) A person who manufactures, offers for sale or for rent, exports, imports
to or
through Finland or otherwise distributes sexually obscene pictures or visual
recordings depicting
(1) children,
(2) sexual violence or
(3) bestiality
shall be sentenced for distribution of sexually obscene pictures to a fine or
imprisonment for a maximum of two years.
(2) An attempt shall be punished.
(3) The provisions laid down in section 17(2) apply also to the pictures and
visual
recordings referred to in this section.
(4) A person under 18 years of age and a person whose age cannot be determined
but who can be justifiably assumed to be under 18 years of age is regarded as
a
child.
...
Section 20 - Unlawful marketing of obscene material (563/1998)
(1) A person who, for gain, markets an obscene picture, visual recording or
object
which is conducive to causing public offence, by
(1) giving it to a person under 15 years of age;
(2) putting it on public display;
(3) delivering it unsolicited to another; or
(4) openly offering it for sale or promoting it by advertisement, brochure or
poster or by other means causing public offence,
shall be sentenced for unlawful marketing of obscene material to a fine or to
imprisonment for at most six months.
(2) A sentence for unlawful marketing of obscene material shall also be passed
on
person who, in the manner referred to in paragraph (1)(4), offers for sale or
promotes an obscene text or sound recording which is conducive to causing
public offence.
...

So really, think twice before posting that shit anywhere.

 
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Kimvais
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#2
30 Oct 2007 22:14
 
 
Asking mudders to fear an obscenity law is a little silly. It's fine with me
if you want to play channel police and issue bans, but if you're implying that
someone deserves jail for goatse even if a nsfw warning was issued then I'm
not sure I like you being in an authority position.

 
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Presence
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#3
30 Oct 2007 22:33
 
 
Presence wrote:
Asking mudders to fear an obscenity law is a little silly. It's fine with me
if you want to play channel police and issue bans, but if you're implying that
someone deserves jail for goatse even if a nsfw warning was issued then I'm
not sure I like you being in an authority position.
there was a reason why it was posted in flame.
and it was a response to the multiple whin^H^H^H^Htells from multiple persons
how the rule is unjust and boohoo everything is once again totally fucked

:)

 
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Kimvais
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#4
30 Oct 2007 23:17
 
 
Presence wrote:
Asking mudders to fear an obscenity law is a little silly. It's fine with me
if you want to play channel police and issue bans, but if you're implying that
someone deserves jail for goatse even if a nsfw warning was issued then I'm
not sure I like you being in an authority position.

So you think we should allow you to post links where 70 year
old guys fuck 5 year old boys, just because you think that's hot?

Or should we allow posting pictures of cute kittens?

Somewhere there is a line which you shouldn't cross. Kimvais'
flame referred to _illegal_ stuff. Yes, the help thingie
addresses some non-illegal stuff too, but seriously, do you
really need to post that mutilated xxx on chat instead of
myspecialfriends+? Get a grip.

-Era of quality links

 
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Era
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#5
31 Oct 2007 08:19
 
 
Era wrote:
So you think we should allow you to post links where 70 year
old guys fuck 5 year old boys, just because you think that's hot?

I said I thought the rule was fine and that the extra justification was silly.
I think enforcing a certain level of "good taste" in an online game is a
necessary evil because many parents and employers are lame people. I strongly
support laws against sexual cruelty. I strongly oppose obscenity laws. I think
that on the list of bad things that can happen to you, goatse is somewhat less
severe than being caught lying about your birthday for a free small sundae at
IHOP.

I'm assuming all this got started because someone got in trouble over a link
at work or with their parents looking over their shoulders. My condolences to
that person.

 
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Presence
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#6
31 Oct 2007 10:56
 
 
Presence wrote:
Era wrote:
So you think we should allow you to post links where 70 year
old guys fuck 5 year old boys, just because you think that's hot?

I said I thought the rule was fine and that the extra justification was silly.
I think enforcing a certain level of "good taste" in an online game is a
necessary evil because many parents and employers are lame people. I strongly
support laws against sexual cruelty. I strongly oppose obscenity laws. I think
that on the list of bad things that can happen to you, goatse is somewhat less
severe than being caught lying about your birthday for a free small sundae at
IHOP.

I'm assuming all this got started because someone got in trouble over a link
at work or with their parents looking over their shoulders. My condolences to
that person.
It got started when some Finnish players kept posting really sick, twisted,
gross (and perhaps even borderline illegal) links repeatedly on suomi channel
and a multitude of wizards got bored on it. The rule has always been there and
it has always been enforced - some people got away with it for sure, but now
everyone can read the help file and as it is written down, people CAN report
the folks who seem to be getting away with posting totally obscene and
offensive links on public channels.

On a side note, given the minus ratings my posts have been getting, it seems
that the help file was very much needed as it seems there were even more of
these people who though posting that stuff was funny than I thought there
could be. Apparently there are much more sick fucks in mudders than in general
population, but I think we all could've guessed that...

 
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Kimvais
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