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#1
08 Aug 2013 11:15
 
 
Kiss of Death

1 round. PLEASE. The skill is logistic in nature and intrinsic to rep gain.
I can see the reason for not making it an instant free action like other rep
mechanics, ep cost is even right on the money. But 3 rounds is nothing but a
pooper probing.


Duty, Honor, Glory

Darian Wanderer

 
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Darian
1y, 125d, 16h, 43m, 9s old
Level:
100
 
 
#2
09 Aug 2013 22:25
 
 
Darian wrote:
Kiss of Death

1 round. PLEASE. The skill is logistic in nature and intrinsic to rep gain.
I can see the reason for not making it an instant free action like other rep
mechanics, ep cost is even right on the money. But 3 rounds is nothing but a
pooper probing.


Duty, Honor, Glory

Darian Wanderer
The short answer is: Sorry, I won't do that. You can start hating me now if
you want for not following the community's opinion.

The longer answer is below.

This issue reappears every once in a while and seems like there's interest
in this topic by the community, so I decided to answer it. Since I'm not
granting this wish, many of you might think I'm just writing this to
say "screw you, everyone!", but as the post gained 10/10 rating, I'm writing
this post out of respect, because I could have more easily just moved along
and wait for the post to disappear somewhere to the database instead of
bringing it up like this. If you cannot appreciate my decision, I hope you
can appreciate the fact that I'm actually replying at all. :) I'm thinking
that the annoyance this skill causes mostly derives from those certain
moments in parties where someone aggravates the monster either with "kill"
or some quicker skill than 3 round kiss of death is.

While I do agree that kiss of death is probably the best skill to gain
charm/wrath mastery in Kharim, I don't personally think that using the
skill in all situations is crucial. All Kharim skills are counted towards
gaining wrath mastery and all Kharim spells are counted towards gaining
charm mastery (although I do agree gaining charm with Kharim spells is
very troublesome) so gaining mastery through other skills and spells is
also a choice. Therefore I don't completely agree that this particular
kiss of death-skill would be intrinsic. I also do not want it to be.

Almost all the time it's not recognized that kiss of death does other
things besides increases reputation and those effects are one part of
the reason why I'm not inclined to reduce any rounds from this skill.
I've been suggested that I remove all the other effects, change the
skill to 1 round, and just let it increase reputation. I could do
that, but I'm not a big believer in skills that don't actually do
anything themselves but instead work as some meta game-piece that
increases your own power.

When looking into the big picture how Kharim works, I think it's fair
to say that the guild is probably in better balance than an average
guild and I'm not actively seeking ways of increasing guild's power.
I'm usually open to different ideas and sometimes change my mind if
someone can convince me that I'm wrong about something. However, I'm also
a strong believer of my own principles and I usually go with what I
believe is the right call and what better suits my personal creative
vision. Therefore I'm not reducing any rounds from the skill as that
is not the direction I wish to pursue. Unfortunately in this case you
may only adapt to the situation by finding a way to use it or stop
using it at all.

 
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Darol
A r c h w i z a r d
3y, 167d, 11h, 50m, 12s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]
 
 
#3
10 Aug 2013 03:17
 
 
Quote:
Quotes Deleted, no need for spam.
Thank you for the response. Indeed the procs off of Kiss, especially charm,
are rewarding for it's use. I use it not only for it's rep gain and procs, but
I also enjoy the flavor of the skill itself. For a guild with Decietful Act of
Mercy and such it seems an all too fitting way to fill a soul with despair,
ripe for plucking.

The biggest frustration is only being able to use the skill when you are
leading. In offtank style exp it rarely goes off before a cry will, and with
blaster style exp you have a 50/50 shot of getting it in if your mage starts
with P Burst, and a snowballs chance if not. So slow leading or solo.

As you and I have discussed in the past, Kharim is probably my favorite tank
guild. While it most certainly is your baby and your vision, I care about the
subject enough to at least try.


Duty, Honor, Glory

Darian Wanderer

 
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Darian
1y, 126d, 20h, 6m, 3s old
Level:
100