The same time you do the same thing.

Actually here's how it works: the harder you, or a monster, is stunned, the
lower the ability to dodge. Since most mortal-made stuns are on the light
side, you don't 100% negate the monster's dodge ability. The monsters aren't
really cheating, it's just that mortals don't have the HUGE(tm) stun special
attacks that monsters do. So I guess it really is cheating.

As for skills, each skill is individually coded with its own miss chance. Some
more recent ones, such as knight and reaver skills, have stunchecks in them,
that older skills like bash don't. It would be far more realistic to ask guild
wizards to look at specific skills then to say "all skills should do this"
because, quite frankly, nobody wants to edit 500+ skills except maybe Tarken.

Shinarae Lluminus