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Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
Rating:
-7
Votes:
9
Lammas wrote:
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
Triple rebirth races. So, it really doesn't break any rules, since rebirth
races should be better than your mortal (barso,giant,dwarf,lizardman,ect)
races. Batmud Fact of the Day: Time equals reward!
Rating:
-1
Votes:
7
Nikana wrote:
Lammas wrote:
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
Triple rebirth races. So, it really doesn't break any rules, since rebirth
races should be better than your mortal (barso,giant,dwarf,lizardman,ect)
races. Batmud Fact of the Day: Time equals reward!
-ac to gnoll and -something to kobold
Rating:
-9
Votes:
9
Why is Gnoll and Kobold non rebirth suffel race? Anyways could we already get
-ac to gnoll and -something to kobold -- Lammas
Gnolls are so suffel you won't take them in your exp party, right!? Gnolls
don't have fastmeta, shitty spellcost, slow hpr tick, and they also having
shitty AC (natural protection). If you notice 90% of the people that play
Gnoll are booned and have elite eq to make up for all the negatives. Compare
the 3-5 people that play Gnoll to the 15-20 people that play barso. Doesn't
sound so great anymore does it? Oh, and try getting into an eq party as
Gnoll!
-ac to gnoll and -something to kobold
-- LammasGnolls are so suffel you won't take them in your exp party, right!? Gnolls
don't have fastmeta, shitty spellcost, slow hpr tick, and they also having
shitty AC (natural protection). If you notice 90% of the people that play
Gnoll are booned and have elite eq to make up for all the negatives. Compare
the 3-5 people that play Gnoll to the 15-20 people that play barso. Doesn't
sound so great anymore does it? Oh, and try getting into an eq party as
Gnoll!
Rating:
7
Votes:
9
Quote:
Nikana wrote:
Lammas wrote:
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
Triple rebirth races. So, it really doesn't break any rules, since rebirth
races should be better than your mortal (barso,giant,dwarf,lizardman,ect)
races. Batmud Fact of the Day: Time equals reward!
-ac to gnoll and -something to kobold
shared eq that everyone can use and then this will end this string of stupid
posts picking on tuning race E because player x y and z make it rok but player
L has problems with it.
Thanks
Rating:
9
Votes:
13
Nikana wrote:
Lammas wrote:
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
Triple rebirth races. So, it really doesn't break any rules, since rebirth
races should be better than your mortal (barso,giant,dwarf,lizardman,ect)
races. Batmud Fact of the Day: Time equals reward!
powerful than the mortal races?
Rebirth is not there to add more power, it is there to add more flavor.
But yes, there is a certain race I would like to see some serious facelifting
The duergar
It is a shame to see such a great RPG element (lets face it, duergars are
quite cool) to equal shit.
Rating:
9
Votes:
11
Lammas wrote:
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc. Hard to talk about giving
fmeta to few tank races breaking the race tunes.
Casters have quick lips, fmeta, qc for hastening spells. Tanks have, lemme
count fmeta?! WOOP WOOP. Unless you really want to count archers. Easier
solution would be to give tanks without those suffeli 2 round skills (reavers)
or archers with 3 or 4 round static rounds (and +qc skills) some type of way
of having quick chant for skills. Especially crimsons and guilds with those
1-6 round random skills could use such skill and/or that fmeta.
Tank races that could get fmeta (size vice) hobbit, dwarf, skeleton, human,
tinmen, cromagnon (almost).
is quite befitting that it gets faster metabolism (even though its size is 85
or whatnots)
Lammas wrote, for some reason,
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
I said, as an RPG fan, it seemed odd to give fast meta to a giant lumbering
behemoth, because real life animals didn't do that. However, we are talking
about demons here, and even I am willing to admit the rules are different for
cretures not even made of flesh.
There are several caster races with quite high size vampire 59, moomin 53 with
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc.
I have to admit, I never thought of those sizes as "large". They're in the
same general ballpark as humans. Also I'm fairly sure some of them are rebirth
races, which have higher stats (and, therefore, can accept fast meta and still
be considered balanced).
Shinarae Lluminus
Why do we have fmeta on demon race it clearly breaks the rule shinarae had
about big races having fmeta (size 85).
I said, as an RPG fan, it seemed odd to give fast meta to a giant lumbering
behemoth, because real life animals didn't do that. However, we are talking
about demons here, and even I am willing to admit the rules are different for
cretures not even made of flesh.
Also wrote:
fmeta (and all the rest of the suffeli high exprate spellmax low spell/skill
costs). Shadow size 55 high skill/spell maxes etc.
I have to admit, I never thought of those sizes as "large". They're in the
same general ballpark as humans. Also I'm fairly sure some of them are rebirth
races, which have higher stats (and, therefore, can accept fast meta and still
be considered balanced).
Shinarae Lluminus
Rating:
5
Votes:
5
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