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#1
22 Feb 2011 13:34
 
 
I'm not sure I quite understand the difference between a
rig in an inventory or a rig worn? A worn rig reduces more
weight yes, but it takes a slot which is only usable by rigs?

Am I missing something? Is the only downside of rigs that
they have to be worn? If so, why not make them take a real
slot (for example cloak) so players actually have a choice to make?

 
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Nosunrise
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#2
23 Feb 2011 17:53
 
 
Nosunrise wrote:
I'm not sure I quite understand the difference between a
rig in an inventory or a rig worn? A worn rig reduces more
weight yes, but it takes a slot which is only usable by rigs?

Am I missing something? Is the only downside of rigs that
they have to be worn? If so, why not make them take a real
slot (for example cloak) so players actually have a choice to make?
They do take a real slot. The slot is the "rig" slot. Right now it's not a big
deal because rigs with +stats are very rare. That will not always be the case.

Shinarae Lluminus

 
 
 
Shinarae
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#3
23 Feb 2011 18:07
 
 
Shinarae wrote:
Nosunrise wrote:
I'm not sure I quite understand the difference between a
rig in an inventory or a rig worn? A worn rig reduces more
weight yes, but it takes a slot which is only usable by rigs?

Am I missing something? Is the only downside of rigs that
they have to be worn? If so, why not make them take a real
slot (for example cloak) so players actually have a choice to make?
They do take a real slot. The slot is the "rig" slot. Right now it's not a big
deal because rigs with +stats are very rare. That will not always be the case.

Shinarae Lluminus
I think the original post was probably meant to read more "the difference
between a pre-rig-slot backpack in inventory and a post-rig-slot rig in the
rig slot". You added a slot for a backpack, and it's basically the same as
the backpack that used to sit in inventory.. it isn't replacing a current
slot, so no real difference here.. except that you can only wear 1 rig, while
before you could have 5 backpacks in inventory. Now you only get the reduced
weight bonus from one of those now, if I understand this right?

Course, if this isn't the case.. I agree with Nosunrise. You can add a
"torch" slot that lets you wear your torch.. and it hasn't changed anything..
unless there's some difference between that item in inventory and the one
worn.

 
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Xyloid
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#4
23 Feb 2011 20:01
 
 
I understood the original point. As most players know, there are two major
kinds of containers: those that reduce weight, and those that don't. Rigs are
in the first. However, you only get one (centaurs: two, barsos: nuuh) that
reduces weight to the full potential. This does not mean you can't make 10
diamond equipment frames and put your shop fodder items into them. It _does_
mean that nine of those ten frames won't be doing the full job.

This will be a bigger deal later, of course. If you had a merchant-made
diamond equipment frame, but also had a fur satchel of +3 con, which would you
use? The one with the stats, or the one that gives a more drastic weight
reduction when worn?

Shinarae Lluminus

 
 
 
Shinarae
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#5
24 Feb 2011 09:47
 
 
Actually my point about rigs was along what Xy said plus
what Shinarae confirmed, the tune aspect.

After rigs we are in a situation that:
- All eq is "vlw". No need to worry about burdening, just take everything.
- "Weak, overpowered" caster races are now plain "overpowered".
- Everyone gets a slot that gives even more stats/regen.
- Feather weights lose some of their meaning.

Not exactly big stuff, but in this day and age when players
are at an alltime high in power/exp/eq/whatnot, it's not
exactly needed to accelerate the trend.

But, if you'd lose the rig slot, or for example make cloak slot
unplayable with them, we'd at least strike out one of the points
mentioned above and give alternatives to choose from. Currently
its a no-brainer.

 
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Nosunrise
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