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#1
30 Sep 2004 22:58
 
 
Merioli wrote:
Yes, I know you do this on your free time, I know you arent obligated to do
anything really.. but I\'d still like to stress the need of a new wizard in
charge of coding for priest guild.

We\'ve had a few last tunes that has mainly been done to stabilize the guild
compared to others and not make people loose all hope (tho I think more then
one of the latest tunes have been to priests disadvantage rather then increase
their gameplay in any way) and reinc out of it totally.

There are some of us who are stuck in this guild beacause we simply like it,
and more so; like what it COULD become. And with all the ideas throughout the
years must be enough for a basic total remake of the guild.

Could we at least be given a clue if there is any serious talk about assigning
priests to someone who will actually code and do active work with it, or if
it\'s left to wither down and fall behind all the other guilds.

I will also post this to ideas-wanted and general since I bet more then half
of the wizards have this newsgroup turned off, and I wouldnt want to miss any
potential coder for priest guild out there, would I? :)

/meri

Agreed, but the guild has a coder, he first needs to pass it off if he doesn't
choose to continue working on the guild.
Ive heard that archwizard can do anything. And weve seen wiz purges
before.

 
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Capula
1y, 253d, 2h, 13m, 49s old
Level:
100
 
 
#2
30 Sep 2004 23:08
 
 
Capula wrote:
Merioli wrote:
Yes, I know you do this on your free time, I know you arent obligated to do
anything really.. but I\'d still like to stress the need of a new wizard in
charge of coding for priest guild.

We\'ve had a few last tunes that has mainly been done to stabilize the guild
compared to others and not make people loose all hope (tho I think more then
one of the latest tunes have been to priests disadvantage rather then increase
their gameplay in any way) and reinc out of it totally.

There are some of us who are stuck in this guild beacause we simply like it,
and more so; like what it COULD become. And with all the ideas throughout the
years must be enough for a basic total remake of the guild.

Could we at least be given a clue if there is any serious talk about assigning
priests to someone who will actually code and do active work with it, or if
it\'s left to wither down and fall behind all the other guilds.

I will also post this to ideas-wanted and general since I bet more then half
of the wizards have this newsgroup turned off, and I wouldnt want to miss any
potential coder for priest guild out there, would I? :)

/meri

Agreed, but the guild has a coder, he first needs to pass it off if he doesn't
choose to continue working on the guild.
Ive heard that archwizard can do anything. And weve seen wiz purges
before.
I'd get offended by seeing this behind my back. If there is a wizard who wants
to take over priests, he can always talk to the toriginal guild creator, I'm
sure they can find some common language for guild's good.

What you suggest right now, is IMO low and really dirty thing.

^o^

 
 
 
Favorit
W i z a r d
2y, 200d, 2h, 23m, 36s old
Level:
112 [Wizard]
 
 
#3
30 Sep 2004 23:11
 
 
Favorit wrote:
Capula wrote:
Merioli wrote:
Yes, I know you do this on your free time, I know you arent obligated to do
anything really.. but I\'d still like to stress the need of a new wizard in
charge of coding for priest guild.

We\'ve had a few last tunes that has mainly been done to stabilize the guild
compared to others and not make people loose all hope (tho I think more then
one of the latest tunes have been to priests disadvantage rather then increase
their gameplay in any way) and reinc out of it totally.

There are some of us who are stuck in this guild beacause we simply like it,
and more so; like what it COULD become. And with all the ideas throughout the
years must be enough for a basic total remake of the guild.

Could we at least be given a clue if there is any serious talk about assigning
priests to someone who will actually code and do active work with it, or if
it\'s left to wither down and fall behind all the other guilds.

I will also post this to ideas-wanted and general since I bet more then half
of the wizards have this newsgroup turned off, and I wouldnt want to miss any
potential coder for priest guild out there, would I? :)

/meri

Agreed, but the guild has a coder, he first needs to pass it off if he doesn't
choose to continue working on the guild.
Ive heard that archwizard can do anything. And weve seen wiz purges
before.
I'd get offended by seeing this behind my back. If there is a wizard who wants
to take over priests, he can always talk to the toriginal guild creator, I'm
sure they can find some common language for guild's good.

What you suggest right now, is IMO low and really dirty thing.
This surely isnt done behind anybodys back. Maybe public talking
gives a push to get hold on things.

 
 
 
Capula
1y, 253d, 2h, 13m, 49s old
Level:
100
 
 
#4
30 Sep 2004 23:13
 
 
Ok, if transfer of guild to another upsets wizard morality so much, why not
just assign him a 'helper'? I suppose it wouldn't be too improper to let
somebody else do the work that must be done?

 
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Saldas
1y, 49d, 2h, 47m, 25s old
Level:
45
 
 
#5
30 Sep 2004 23:26
 
 
Wow, i can't believe i'm still reading this thread. I'm with Favorit on this
one though...To actually suggest taking away someone else's code and start
changing it is quite lame and rude. How about you let me break into your
houses and take all your possessions? Same type of feeling. A lot of wizards,
and players alike, have real lives out side of bat, as absurd as that may be
to some of you. When it comes time to choose between tinkering with a guild
and keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, you'll be damned sure
I'm choosing the latter. Realize we code because we want to, not specifically
to cater to whatever demands players may think they're authorized to give.
With attitudes like yours, I see no reason why he should code improvements at
all, ever.

+/- Hackop

 
 
 
Hackop
C o d e s l a v e
1y, 16d, 5h, 14m, 33s old
Level:
31 [Wizard]
 
 
#6
30 Sep 2004 23:31
 
 
Hackop wrote:
Wow, i can't believe i'm still reading this thread. I'm with Favorit on this
one though...To actually suggest taking away someone else's code and start
changing it is quite lame and rude. How about you let me break into your
houses and take all your possessions? Same type of feeling. A lot of wizards,
and players alike, have real lives out side of bat, as absurd as that may be
to some of you. When it comes time to choose between tinkering with a guild
and keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, you'll be damned sure
I'm choosing the latter. Realize we code because we want to, not specifically
to cater to whatever demands players may think they're authorized to give.
With attitudes like yours, I see no reason why he should code improvements at
all, ever.
Well, I agree on those things, quite right. The point is though: if the wizard
has other interests, like real life, and has absolutely NO time to code
anything, maybe he should be asked if he would let anyone change it? If it's
SUCH private and important property (among his other interests and property),
then it might be possible for you wizards to discuss it with the said person?
If this 'property' thing is really the case, of course it's rude to just take
it away and change whatever. But talking should be at least tried, no?

 
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Saldas
1y, 49d, 2h, 47m, 25s old
Level:
45
 
 
#7
02 Oct 2004 13:05
 
 
Saldas wrote:
Hackop wrote:
Wow, i can't believe i'm still reading this thread. I'm with Favorit on this
one though...To actually suggest taking away someone else's code and start
changing it is quite lame and rude. How about you let me break into your
houses and take all your possessions? Same type of feeling. A lot of wizards,
and players alike, have real lives out side of bat, as absurd as that may be
to some of you. When it comes time to choose between tinkering with a guild
and keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, you'll be damned sure
I'm choosing the latter. Realize we code because we want to, not specifically
to cater to whatever demands players may think they're authorized to give.
With attitudes like yours, I see no reason why he should code improvements at
all, ever.
Well, I agree on those things, quite right. The point is though: if the wizard
has other interests, like real life, and has absolutely NO time to code
anything, maybe he should be asked if he would let anyone change it? If it's
SUCH private and important property (among his other interests and property),
then it might be possible for you wizards to discuss it with the said person?
If this 'property' thing is really the case, of course it's rude to just take
it away and change whatever. But talking should be at least tried, no?
Yes, however why do you think there is a queue of volunteers and evil Coren or
evil arches don't let them into priests?

^o^

 
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Favorit
W i z a r d
2y, 201d, 16h, 14m, 51s old
Level:
112 [Wizard]
 
 
#8
02 Oct 2004 13:11
 
 
Favorit wrote:
Saldas wrote:
Hackop wrote:
Wow, i can't believe i'm still reading this thread. I'm with Favorit on this
one though...To actually suggest taking away someone else's code and start
changing it is quite lame and rude. How about you let me break into your
houses and take all your possessions? Same type of feeling. A lot of wizards,
and players alike, have real lives out side of bat, as absurd as that may be
to some of you. When it comes time to choose between tinkering with a guild
and keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, you'll be damned sure
I'm choosing the latter. Realize we code because we want to, not specifically
to cater to whatever demands players may think they're authorized to give.
With attitudes like yours, I see no reason why he should code improvements at
all, ever.
Well, I agree on those things, quite right. The point is though: if the wizard
has other interests, like real life, and has absolutely NO time to code
anything, maybe he should be asked if he would let anyone change it? If it's
SUCH private and important property (among his other interests and property),
then it might be possible for you wizards to discuss it with the said person?
If this 'property' thing is really the case, of course it's rude to just take
it away and change whatever. But talking should be at least tried, no?
Yes, however why do you think there is a queue of volunteers and evil Coren or
evil arches don't let them into priests?
of course there isnt queue, who the hell would _want_ to continue someone
else's code - as it most likely is not done in "corporate" manner by
commenting a lot and making spec how the stuff works.

\o/

 
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Cilwand
90d, 4h, 58m, 43s old
Level:
98
 
 
#9
30 Sep 2004 23:40
 
 
Hackop wrote:
Wow, i can't believe i'm still reading this thread. I'm with Favorit on this
one though...To actually suggest taking away someone else's code and start
changing it is quite lame and rude. How about you let me break into your
houses and take all your possessions? Same type of feeling. A lot of wizards,
and players alike, have real lives out side of bat, as absurd as that may be
to some of you. When it comes time to choose between tinkering with a guild
and keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, you'll be damned sure
I'm choosing the latter. Realize we code because we want to, not specifically
to cater to whatever demands players may think they're authorized to give.
With attitudes like yours, I see no reason why he should code improvements at
all, ever.
Well, what else should we suggest? I agree, the tone of the messages
has been a bit hostile though.... But still, there hasn't been much
changes in priests since Aarugotti's times. Recent small changes
by Juggelo didn't do that much really, just some tweaking.

Anyway, different wizards take over different guilds occasionally,
for various reasons (look at "new" barbarians for example, quite
good result from new guildmaster). Of course coren should be
consulted in this matter, but if somebody steps up, there's no reason
to hold him/her back. The code's more or less collective effort
after all.

And yes, priests could use some facelift. Habo, habo, habo, habo,
habo, habo. Rais the dead people. Habo, habo, habo.

-Era of the ent forest.

PS: I do like being a priest, and harm body is quite nice, it
after all does the same damage as mageblasts :)

 
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Era
4y, 186d, 21h, 47m, 38s old
Level:
69
 
 
#10
02 Oct 2004 12:57
 
 
Saldas wrote:
Ok, if transfer of guild to another upsets wizard morality so much, why not
just assign him a 'helper'? I suppose it wouldn't be too improper to let
somebody else do the work that must be done?
I'm a bit late with my responses, but still... You don't get one simple thing.
Noone ASSIGNS anything. Noone is OBLIGED to do anything. Believe me, if there
was a wizard eagerly wanting to do something to priests he would have spoken
to Coren by now. If you are one, talk to Coren, then to arches about your
immorting. (As Gore already stated in his flame post).

^o^

 
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Favorit
W i z a r d
2y, 201d, 16h, 14m, 51s old
Level:
112 [Wizard]
 
 
#11
02 Oct 2004 13:04
 
 
Favorit wrote:
Saldas wrote:
Ok, if transfer of guild to another upsets wizard morality so much, why not
just assign him a 'helper'? I suppose it wouldn't be too improper to let
somebody else do the work that must be done?
I'm a bit late with my responses, but still... You don't get one simple thing.
Noone ASSIGNS anything. Noone is OBLIGED to do anything. Believe me, if there
was a wizard eagerly wanting to do something to priests he would have spoken
to Coren by now. If you are one, talk to Coren, then to arches about your
immorting. (As Gore already stated in his flame post).
'Hello addicts' :DDDDD

And, keep up the good work with the guilds - its not an persoanl offensive
against your virtual ego even if someone says you SHOULD do something, and I
guess most of the wizards who didn't take Merioli's post as a personal threat
can agree that priests (and some more guilds) need bit work.

(ps. dont repeat what Gore always says : you're not obliged to do anything,
you're doing all coding for the good of your hearts etc bullshit - we all know
you're building your virtual ego by coding and gaining levels, feeling worthy
and gaining respect from newbies as almight wizard :DDDDD)



\o/

 
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Cilwand
90d, 4h, 58m, 43s old
Level:
98
 
 
#12
02 Oct 2004 13:11
 
 
Cilwand wrote:
Favorit wrote:
Saldas wrote:
Ok, if transfer of guild to another upsets wizard morality so much, why not
just assign him a 'helper'? I suppose it wouldn't be too improper to let
somebody else do the work that must be done?
I'm a bit late with my responses, but still... You don't get one simple thing.
Noone ASSIGNS anything. Noone is OBLIGED to do anything. Believe me, if there
was a wizard eagerly wanting to do something to priests he would have spoken
to Coren by now. If you are one, talk to Coren, then to arches about your
immorting. (As Gore already stated in his flame post).
'Hello addicts' :DDDDD

And, keep up the good work with the guilds - its not an persoanl offensive
against your virtual ego even if someone says you SHOULD do something, and I
guess most of the wizards who didn't take Merioli's post as a personal threat
can agree that priests (and some more guilds) need bit work.

(ps. dont repeat what Gore always says : you're not obliged to do anything,
you're doing all coding for the good of your hearts etc bullshit - we all know
you're building your virtual ego by coding and gaining levels, feeling worthy
and gaining respect from newbies as almight wizard :DDDDD)

At a certain point that urge for levels stops and we code just for fun (at
least I speak of myself now). And yes, priests might use some rework. And yes,
go talk to Coren and immort now, and then WORK, WORK, listen to the
everlasting whines and WORK, now get up, lazy bum, write an application :)

^o^

 
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Favorit
W i z a r d
2y, 201d, 16h, 14m, 51s old
Level:
112 [Wizard]
 
 
#13
02 Oct 2004 20:12
 
 
I want all your levels. All your base code belongs to us. GIMME ALL YOUR
LOVIN!

--
Nice signature ..quitqsq..GRR.

 
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Dino
W i z a r d
30y, 302d, 6h, 9m, 57s old
Level:
55 [Wizard]