I think you're using too many words like 'nothing', 'never' and the like. As a
matter of fact (and it is a fact), most people doing any kind of eq tend to be
levels 85+. That's just for your information. Lower-level players, around 95%
of them, concentrate mostly on making exp to get to those higher levels, so
they can do eq. Face it, it's a highbie-rapist world, always been, and as far
as i can see it always will be.

Its not highbie-rapist world if you don't want it to be.
I have made most of my eqs less than 100m total worth and now after rebirth
(less than 40megs of total worth right now) I have made tons of eq.

Its just you have to be the leader, the one who gathers the party and the one
who takes the blame when everything goes wrong.
Oh and sure as hell no-one thanks you when everything goes like it suppose to
go.
I know few guys with 500+ megs of exp who just shout and gives ya shit if you
make mistakes in leading and funny thing is that I have NEVER seen them
leading anything.

but anyway

Point is that you can make your own eq with low level if you are the leader.
Just gather 8 other guys and explore areas and monsters. Begining might be bit
rocky but you have to start somewhere.

And keep in mind that leading eq party is thankless job but then again, it's a
way to do shitloads of eqs and cash.

this little rambling was bit off topic I think but who cares, I am drinking
beer and this is BullShit group anyway...







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++Kyo

Just had to point out this that even if you _are_ under 70lvl and under 100m
totals in an eq party I doubt that the rest of the party aint... or show a
party with 9 under 100m players that can do some real "highbie eq" ?

I am pretty sure 9 x 50-60 level ppl can make pretty decent eq. Of course it
would require carefull planning and thinking who will be in what reinc. There
are lot of ok to decent eq which are quite easy to make even with low level
party (it just might take bit or perhaps quita a bit longer to kill than
normal "highbie party").

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++Kyo

This is probably true, given that;
1) The players in question have way much more actual playing experience (not
exp but actual knowledge of playing bat) way more than average 50-60M player.
2) Leader knows the area, all the monsters etc very very well - has atleast
failed to kill the monster before and knows what went wrong.
3) All reincs are very carefully planned.
4) All members have way better eq and way more boons than average lvl 50-60
players

but I suppose you actually mean that a good 50-60 lvl 9 man party that was
designed very carefully for EQ can do those 1 item/monster "eq"monsters. Yes
there are some good eq from those but they are exceptions, almost all decent
eq comes from the top monsters that have more items and are unkillable even by
better-than-average midbie party.

Summa summarum, 9x 50-60 lvl characters can do eq, if only the characters are
newbies but the players behind characters have been arounds since mid 90's or
so

Maybe we could get party together to test this theory?
Gimme a tell if you are interested! Someone would need to reinc primary conju
though! (Which i have done before for this purpose!)

Why should lowbies and midbies have real highbie eq anyways? if you are calling it highbie eq, is that because its eq you consider suitable for highbies?