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#1
01 Oct 2003 08:27
 
 
I love it when someone tells to 'get boons!' when someone brings up a some
issue concerning game balances.

-- ERONK


-- Eronk

 
 
 
Eronk
262d, 21h, 5m, 53s old
Level:
84
 
 
#2
01 Oct 2003 10:52
 
 
Eronk wrote:
I love it when someone tells to 'get boons!' when someone brings up a some
issue concerning game balances.
I am so sorry I offended you. Could you _stop_ already whining that it's so
hard and unbalancing with boons, and it is so god damn hard to get tps? I have
_one_ full boon. I donated. If you don't want to donate you can get tps for
being idle in the game at certain holidays, birthdays and such. Get a
temporary boon. Christ. If that's too hard, here's another option I didn't
mention in my post: get levels and get con from ss. Oh shit, I forgot, you
need exp for that. Well then, I guess the only smart option left is to give
everybody what they want for free then. Otherwise someone would have to do
something besides whine, and that would be just plain undemocratic, facist and
WRONG now wouldn't it?

cm

 
 
 
Cran
284d, 10h, 0m, 42s old
Level:
100
 
 
#3
01 Oct 2003 10:52
 
 
Quote:
Eronk wrote:
> I love it when someone tells to \'get boons!\' when someone brings
up a some
Quote:
> issue concerning game balances.

I am so sorry I offended you. Could you _stop_ already whining that
it\'s so
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hard and unbalancing with boons, and it is so god damn hard to get tps?
I have
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_one_ full boon. I donated. If you don\'t want to donate you can get
tps for
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being idle in the game at certain holidays, birthdays and such. Get a
temporary boon. Christ. If that\'s too hard, here\'s another option
I didn\'t
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mention in my post: get levels and get con from ss. Oh shit, I forgot,
you
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need exp for that. Well then, I guess the only smart option left is to
give
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everybody what they want for free then. Otherwise someone would have to
do
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something besides whine, and that would be just plain undemocratic,
facist and
Quote:
WRONG now wouldn\'t it?

cm
No matter what people say or how they defend boons and TPs or whatever.
Still, boons are BY FAR the #1 balance problem in this game. If you think
this post is written in jealous feelings, think again.

 
 
 
Huppu
1y, 161d, 17h, 52m, 21s old
Level:
79
 
 
#4
01 Oct 2003 12:34
 
 
No matter what people say or how they defend boons and TPs or whatever. Still,
boons are BY FAR the #1 balance problem in this game. If you think this post
is written in jealous feelings, think again.

Not much left to say when the killing blow has been presented with such
rock-solid arguments.

cm

 
 
 
Cran
284d, 12h, 29m, 23s old
Level:
100
 
 
#5
02 Oct 2003 04:43
 
 
Quote:
No matter what people say or how they defend boons and TPs or whatever.
Still,
Quote:
boons are BY FAR the #1 balance problem in this game. If you think this
post
Quote:
is written in jealous feelings, think again.

Not much left to say when the killing blow has been presented with such
rock-solid arguments.

cm
Well, how are you going to tune a skill if you don\'t know whether your
lvl50 guy will have 100 or 175str? Or 100 vs 175dex? Or 100 vs 175int...
wis... whatever.. It makes tuning the game impossible and it\'s lead to
this situation where we are now where stats are semi-useless for melee
classes. Dex and Str are NOT very meaningful, Con is because of hitpoints
and that\'s why con boon was tuned down. If Str was a prime factor in
dealing damage I\'d bet we\'d see a downtune of that boon too, or Dex
for defense. But since there\'s such HUGE variations in those stats and
the +76 you get from boon is a HUGE amount - the stats are left next to
meaningless since it\'s impossible to make them meaningful and keep the
game playable (if it is even now) for the unbooned.

And well, hybrid tanks make this subject an even more fun one, do I need
to go into details on this? I hope you can sort it out yourself and tell
me how your hybrid can kick ass without boons.

 
 
 
Huppu
1y, 161d, 19h, 42m, 21s old
Level:
79
 
 
#6
02 Oct 2003 10:20
 
 
Quote:
> No matter what people say or how they defend boons and TPs or
whatever.
Quote:
Still,
> boons are BY FAR the #1 balance problem in this game. If you think
this
Quote:
post
> is written in jealous feelings, think again.
>
> Not much left to say when the killing blow has been presented with
such
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> rock-solid arguments.
>
> cm

Well, how are you going to tune a skill if you don\'t know whether
your
Quote:
lvl50 guy will have 100 or 175str? Or 100 vs 175dex? Or 100 vs
175int...
Quote:
wis... whatever.. It makes tuning the game impossible and it\'s lead
to
Quote:
this situation where we are now where stats are semi-useless for melee
classes. Dex and Str are NOT very meaningful, Con is because of
hitpoints
Quote:
and that\'s why con boon was tuned down. If Str was a prime factor in
dealing damage I\'d bet we\'d see a downtune of that boon too, or
Dex
Quote:
for defense. But since there\'s such HUGE variations in those stats
and
Quote:
the +76 you get from boon is a HUGE amount - the stats are left next to
meaningless since it\'s impossible to make them meaningful and keep
the
Quote:
game playable (if it is even now) for the unbooned.

And well, hybrid tanks make this subject an even more fun one, do I
need
Quote:
to go into details on this? I hope you can sort it out yourself and
tell
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me how your hybrid can kick ass without boons.\\
I\'m a hybrid with no boons and I kick your ass huppu :)

 
 
 
Kaz
150d, 5h, 50m, 44s old
Level:
83
 
 
#7
02 Oct 2003 10:20
 
 
Quote:
I\'m a hybrid with no boons and I kick your ass huppu :)
I don\'t recall you kicking my ass even once when the fight was
\'fair\'. Naturally you can kill me if you summon me straight from
raise, use amf potions that prevent me from healing but allow you to do
so... and the list goes on forever. But on an even ground you haven\'t
got me once in the past that I can remember - except that once during my
reinc.

 
 
 
Huppu
1y, 162d, 13h, 4m, 39s old
Level:
79