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Cavaliers have combat riding and mastery of combat riding. This is obviously a
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
Rating:
17
Votes:
19
Kragan wrote:
Cavaliers have combat riding and mastery of combat riding. This is obviously a
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
This can be looked at in either of two ways. Either cavaliers are the guild
you take if you're a knight or beastmaster, and want to get some mount
fighting ability -- or, cavalier is the guild you take to get mounting
fighting power in the first place, and you take knight or beastmaster to add
utility to your character. Your argument is a lot like saying "crimsons are
soldiers, they should be able to hit as hard as barbarians" or "merchants are
masters at lockmaking, they should be able to pick locks as well".
There's only so much stuff you're allowed to cram into a guild based on its
levels. 30 levels of squire/cavalier is not enough to get the utilitarian
combat skills (parry, csense, attack, etc) and also the nifty miscellaneous
mount abilities of the knight and the beastmaster. A level 30 squire/cav,
riding an appropriate mount, has better hitting and defensive power than a
level 35 crimson or ranger, and may very well have a special mount with its
own abilities too. That's fair...as long as they're mounted. If they get the
ability to heel/summon mount in addition to that, they can effectively remain
mounted at all times -- a level of power 30 guild levels doesn't deserve.
Those extra 15 levels are mandatory for game balance.
Cavaliers (at least, as far as this game is concerned) are masters of mounted
combat. That's it. For anything else, you need another guild.
Shinarae Lluminus
Rating:
5
Votes:
15
Shinarae
A r c h w i z a r d
2y, 70d, 23h, 3m, 17s old
Level:
200 [Wizard] Shinarae wrote:
Kragan wrote:
Cavaliers have combat riding and mastery of combat riding. This is obviously a
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
guild geared towards riding in combat, but what good is all that riding
capabilities without anyway to get mounts from place to place? An area with a
syntax such as 'climb cliff' and you are mountless from that point on. Squires
take care of mounts, brush them, make them feed, clean the poop but they cant
call a mount either. Maybe this was overlooked but its more than silly that
you have to take knights or beastmasters to make a mounted cavalier playable.
This can be looked at in either of two ways. Either cavaliers are the guild
you take if you're a knight or beastmaster, and want to get some mount
fighting ability -- or, cavalier is the guild you take to get mounting
fighting power in the first place, and you take knight or beastmaster to add
utility to your character. Your argument is a lot like saying "crimsons are
soldiers, they should be able to hit as hard as barbarians" or "merchants are
masters at lockmaking, they should be able to pick locks as well".
There's only so much stuff you're allowed to cram into a guild based on its
levels. 30 levels of squire/cavalier is not enough to get the utilitarian
combat skills (parry, csense, attack, etc) and also the nifty miscellaneous
mount abilities of the knight and the beastmaster. A level 30 squire/cav,
riding an appropriate mount, has better hitting and defensive power than a
level 35 crimson or ranger, and may very well have a special mount with its
own abilities too. That's fair...as long as they're mounted. If they get the
ability to heel/summon mount in addition to that, they can effectively remain
mounted at all times -- a level of power 30 guild levels doesn't deserve.
Those extra 15 levels are mandatory for game balance.
Cavaliers (at least, as far as this game is concerned) are masters of mounted
combat. That's it. For anything else, you need another guild.
Shinarae Lluminus
would be a very bad choice. After spending the time and money to get a mount,
with mount eq, I would almost certainly lose my mount every other day when
trying to explore, figure out continental travel, getting knocked off mount at
mobs too big for me, etc.
Perhaps you could put a Beastmaster NPC at squire/cav guild that rents mounts
to newbies/all. If you lose that mount, you can go pay a fee to the
beastmaster who would then heel it back home.
Rating:
18
Votes:
18
You guys have it wrong, it's not supposed to be squire/cavalier first, it's
supposed to be squire/beastmaster first, then you add on cavalier as you go.
Believe me, beastmaster is a very viable option for a newbie to be reasonably
powerful quickly. They won't be able to tank big mobs because of lack of
Mastery of mounted combat skill, but guided strike? That's a powerful skill
for a level 45 noobtank. Cavalier is not the stand alone-guild, it's the bonus
guild.
Knights are different of course, they require cavalier's meager riding % in
order to function at all, and are definitely meant for exp-laden characters.
supposed to be squire/beastmaster first, then you add on cavalier as you go.
Believe me, beastmaster is a very viable option for a newbie to be reasonably
powerful quickly. They won't be able to tank big mobs because of lack of
Mastery of mounted combat skill, but guided strike? That's a powerful skill
for a level 45 noobtank. Cavalier is not the stand alone-guild, it's the bonus
guild.
Knights are different of course, they require cavalier's meager riding % in
order to function at all, and are definitely meant for exp-laden characters.
Rating:
-2
Votes:
8
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