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In order to keep the momentum going, and see how this turns out, the
nomination of candidates needs to begin.
Bear with me, the instructions may be a little tricky.
So, now, until the end of March, you can propose candidates. The way it works
is:
a) You send me mudmail announcing your candidacy, and
b) You get someone else to send a mail on your behalf.
So in short: You need one reference to nominate yourself as a candidate.
Come April, we will have first round of elections, implemented using the
poll-system. Each player has one vote. The 5 most voted persons will
participate in round two, out of which the two most popular will be chosen.
If anything is unclear, ask me.
Rgds, Ulath
PS. This applies to wizards too. Arches will probably handle this internally
due to low amount persons.
nomination of candidates needs to begin.
Bear with me, the instructions may be a little tricky.
So, now, until the end of March, you can propose candidates. The way it works
is:
a) You send me mudmail announcing your candidacy, and
b) You get someone else to send a mail on your behalf.
So in short: You need one reference to nominate yourself as a candidate.
Come April, we will have first round of elections, implemented using the
poll-system. Each player has one vote. The 5 most voted persons will
participate in round two, out of which the two most popular will be chosen.
If anything is unclear, ask me.
Rgds, Ulath
PS. This applies to wizards too. Arches will probably handle this internally
due to low amount persons.
Really, what is so horrible about this game that this would FIX? I can
certainly think of a lot of good things that it could totally fuck up.
Rating:
2
Votes:
6
Doot wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this is a really bad idea?
opinions. We'll see how it turns out..
Rating:
9
Votes:
13
Xyloid wrote:
Doot wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this is a really bad idea?
opinions. We'll see how it turns out..
be atleast partially safe
Marrow
(ps. and just kidding)
Rating:
8
Votes:
10
Quote:
In order to keep the momentum going, and see how this turns out, the
nomination of candidates needs to begin.
Bear with me, the instructions may be a little tricky.
So, now, until the end of March, you can propose candidates. The way it works
is:
a) You send me mudmail announcing your candidacy, and
b) You get someone else to send a mail on your behalf.
So in short: You need one reference to nominate yourself as a candidate.
Come April, we will have first round of elections, implemented using the
poll-system. Each player has one vote. The 5 most voted persons will
participate in round two, out of which the two most popular will be chosen.
If anything is unclear, ask me.
Rgds, Ulath
PS. This applies to wizards too. Arches will probably handle this internally
due to low amount persons.
nomination of candidates needs to begin.
Bear with me, the instructions may be a little tricky.
So, now, until the end of March, you can propose candidates. The way it works
is:
a) You send me mudmail announcing your candidacy, and
b) You get someone else to send a mail on your behalf.
So in short: You need one reference to nominate yourself as a candidate.
Come April, we will have first round of elections, implemented using the
poll-system. Each player has one vote. The 5 most voted persons will
participate in round two, out of which the two most popular will be chosen.
If anything is unclear, ask me.
Rgds, Ulath
PS. This applies to wizards too. Arches will probably handle this internally
due to low amount persons.
Really, what is so horrible about this game that this would FIX? I can
certainly think of a lot of good things that it could totally fuck up.
close to or are in there 30's by now. Aka most of us now wear our big boy
pants.
I would like to see someone get elected that has had a history of bug fixes and
guild testing, so when the final 5 are anounced could we get a brief post on
each players contributions? I am assumming that there will be a couple Finns
in the group that i may not know much about.
Just a Thought
Tay
Rating:
2
Votes:
2
Interesting how much people like dictatorship! I bet the situation is exactly
similar in, say, Cuba or North-Korea : the people would whine if they were
told that they had to elect a governemnt! It is better when safe and
trustworthy arches are in charge. Or is it?
similar in, say, Cuba or North-Korea : the people would whine if they were
told that they had to elect a governemnt! It is better when safe and
trustworthy arches are in charge. Or is it?
Rating:
1
Votes:
5
Noctur wrote:
Interesting how much people like dictatorship! I bet the situation is exactly
similar in, say, Cuba or North-Korea : the people would whine if they were
told that they had to elect a governemnt! It is better when safe and
trustworthy arches are in charge. Or is it?
similar in, say, Cuba or North-Korea : the people would whine if they were
told that they had to elect a governemnt! It is better when safe and
trustworthy arches are in charge. Or is it?
of mudders like us should have a democratic governing body. look at all the
small countries forced democracy ruined.
Rating:
2
Votes:
2
Not that i have anything against democracy, I just think having players in
charge is a bad idea. giving ideas, yes, but not in charge. We have a proven
system of immorting and gradually giving a new wizard higher access based of
contribution (from what i understand).
charge is a bad idea. giving ideas, yes, but not in charge. We have a proven
system of immorting and gradually giving a new wizard higher access based of
contribution (from what i understand).
Rating:
2
Votes:
6
Azura wrote:
Not that i have anything against democracy, I just think having players in
charge is a bad idea. giving ideas, yes, but not in charge. We have a proven
system of immorting and gradually giving a new wizard higher access based of
contribution (from what i understand).
charge is a bad idea. giving ideas, yes, but not in charge. We have a proven
system of immorting and gradually giving a new wizard higher access based of
contribution (from what i understand).
On a serious note, what's the problem with having chosen mortals have a voice
in what's gonna be done and with what priority? We don't have that many
players nor coders to waste time on stuff which michgt be fun but unimportant.
If your fellow players can voice the opinion of masses with regards to certain
things - why shouldn't they be able to influence our plans a little?
^o^
Rating:
-1
Votes:
3
Favorit
A r c h w i z a r d
7y, 73d, 20h, 26m, 13s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]
What's the problem with listening to the voices of all the game's players?
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
Rating:
4
Votes:
12
Seed wrote:
What's the problem with listening to the voices of all the game's players?
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
Cuz vast majority of you are whiney self-centered non-objective
wannahaveitall's. All you do is pour buckets of shit on whatever is going on
as long as it doesn't benifit directly to you. Well, to prevent us from having
to explain to you that this game isn't built for your personal character
development plan, we want other players to help us with it.
There are more reasons, but I won't mention them, you'll just say it's all
shit anyway.
^o^
Rating:
2
Votes:
14
Favorit
A r c h w i z a r d
7y, 74d, 16h, 14m, 35s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]
Let's try to keep the conversation civil. This is obviously a new concept
and with time the powers that be will evaluate if it works or not.
From an admin perspective, I feel we too often forget that this game
is done for our players and community, and not to lift arches/wizards
etc on a pedestal - basically I think that 'help archwizards are always
right' while funny, is a horrible policy from a development perspective ata
time when we should be much more "customer focused".
Hence I think it will be good to formally allow players to have a voice on
policy issues (and not just the oldschool way where the friend of an arch
can impact stuff, but others cant - or so it has often felt to many). There
will be things that player representatives will not impact (such as the
exact mechanics of an encounter) but when we deal with sensitive topics like
policies for chest/character restores, allowing multiple characters etc, I
think it will be good to have a few player views included.
-- Gore
and with time the powers that be will evaluate if it works or not.
From an admin perspective, I feel we too often forget that this game
is done for our players and community, and not to lift arches/wizards
etc on a pedestal - basically I think that 'help archwizards are always
right' while funny, is a horrible policy from a development perspective ata
time when we should be much more "customer focused".
Hence I think it will be good to formally allow players to have a voice on
policy issues (and not just the oldschool way where the friend of an arch
can impact stuff, but others cant - or so it has often felt to many). There
will be things that player representatives will not impact (such as the
exact mechanics of an encounter) but when we deal with sensitive topics like
policies for chest/character restores, allowing multiple characters etc, I
think it will be good to have a few player views included.
-- Gore
Rating:
10
Votes:
11
Gore
A r c h w i z a r d
11y, 127d, 1h, 28m, 48s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]
While i do understand the purpose for this new proposed system, i simply can't
see it working. Since politics have not been a part of this environment since
day one, we obviously don't have good kind of political activism here. We all
already know that players who make themselves constantly heard, are the ones
who are demanding things to be done in their, usually horribly unbalanced way.
At the same time those who think more about in the perspective of balanced
community are not voicing themselves because it usually hasn't resulted in
anything else than a heated flame-war. I know this "government" aims exactly
to fix this, but it's going to fail horribly. Because even with new policy,
people are still the same. Just look at the names currently involved in this.
Yeah there are some people who are able to think others than themselves, but
mostly the list consists on egomaniac assholes. These people already consider
this game as their own personal playground, and now you are trying to make it
official.
We already have a system where people who can at least pretend to be worried
about the state of this game are able to move into ranks of administration,
and further on even return to a regular player. I say we maintain that, and
forget about this "government" crap.
Anyway, since i know this post is gonna be viewed as "concervative,
right-winged ignorancy" and i'm gonna be seen as someone who is afraid of
change (well hell yeah i'm afraid of this kind change), and this plan of
destruction is not gonna be aborted, i might as well pull a "well folks" right
here. See you in future, hopefully.
see it working. Since politics have not been a part of this environment since
day one, we obviously don't have good kind of political activism here. We all
already know that players who make themselves constantly heard, are the ones
who are demanding things to be done in their, usually horribly unbalanced way.
At the same time those who think more about in the perspective of balanced
community are not voicing themselves because it usually hasn't resulted in
anything else than a heated flame-war. I know this "government" aims exactly
to fix this, but it's going to fail horribly. Because even with new policy,
people are still the same. Just look at the names currently involved in this.
Yeah there are some people who are able to think others than themselves, but
mostly the list consists on egomaniac assholes. These people already consider
this game as their own personal playground, and now you are trying to make it
official.
We already have a system where people who can at least pretend to be worried
about the state of this game are able to move into ranks of administration,
and further on even return to a regular player. I say we maintain that, and
forget about this "government" crap.
Anyway, since i know this post is gonna be viewed as "concervative,
right-winged ignorancy" and i'm gonna be seen as someone who is afraid of
change (well hell yeah i'm afraid of this kind change), and this plan of
destruction is not gonna be aborted, i might as well pull a "well folks" right
here. See you in future, hopefully.
Rating:
14
Votes:
19
My only question is why aren't you running? I mean, if the concern is that
this governance body will be taken over by "egomaniacs", why not find a
more balanced candidate and rally for them?
-- Gore
this governance body will be taken over by "egomaniacs", why not find a
more balanced candidate and rally for them?
-- Gore
Rating:
-2
Votes:
12
Gore
A r c h w i z a r d
11y, 132d, 8h, 51m, 51s old
Level:
600 [Wizard] Gore wrote:
My only question is why aren't you running? I mean, if the concern is that
this governance body will be taken over by "egomaniacs", why not find a
more balanced candidate and rally for them?
-- Gore
this governance body will be taken over by "egomaniacs", why not find a
more balanced candidate and rally for them?
-- Gore
don't want this to happen at all, and i don't want to take any part in it. The
way i see it, going along with this government crap is like picking the best
pile of poo to have for dinner for the rest of your life.
But since you obviously want me to eat my shit and like it, here: Laaban is
actually very good candidate. And so is Darol on the immortal side. There.
Happy now?
Hopefully someone votes for them, because i'm not gonna. Like i said, i'm not
taking any part in this fiasco, except sitting back and be ready to laugh and
yell "i told you so" when you realise your dream should've always been just a
dream. And before you ask: yes, i do vote irl, in both regional and national
elections. And i'm proud to do so. But this is a game, and i play games where
players are just players.
Rating:
-2
Votes:
15
Favorit wrote:
Seed wrote:
What's the problem with listening to the voices of all the game's players?
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
Cuz vast majority of you are whiney self-centered non-objective
wannahaveitall's. All you do is pour buckets of shit on whatever is going on
as long as it doesn't benifit directly to you. Well, to prevent us from having
to explain to you that this game isn't built for your personal character
development plan, we want other players to help us with it.
There are more reasons, but I won't mention them, you'll just say it's all
shit anyway.
wannahaveitalls are going to magically elect a benevolent self-less
non-whiney person to represent them?
Rating:
5
Votes:
9
Doot wrote:
Favorit wrote:
Seed wrote:
What's the problem with listening to the voices of all the game's players?
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
The wizards that doesn't listen/accept input now are magically going to
convert and start listening to a "player representative"? LAUGH!
All it'll do is consolidate the number of people they have to ignore to
one or two, and give them a defacto response to everyone else ..
"Talk to your player rep".
Just another useless hoop. This place isn't that big, the coders that
are active and do listen can easily get feedback, and the ones that don't
listen aren't going to stop being control freaks or know it alls.
I hope you prove me completely wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
Cuz vast majority of you are whiney self-centered non-objective
wannahaveitall's. All you do is pour buckets of shit on whatever is going on
as long as it doesn't benifit directly to you. Well, to prevent us from having
to explain to you that this game isn't built for your personal character
development plan, we want other players to help us with it.
There are more reasons, but I won't mention them, you'll just say it's all
shit anyway.
wannahaveitalls are going to magically elect a benevolent self-less
non-whiney person to represent them?
Rating:
-2
Votes:
2
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