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#1
08 May 2005 18:15
 
 
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.

-Metsän Pöllö

 
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Vince
161d, 17h, 19m, 23s old
Level:
28
 
 
#2
08 May 2005 19:43
 
 
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
but thats in space...

 
 
 
Diego
1y, 201d, 20h, 51m, 25s old
Level:
85
 
 
#3
08 May 2005 20:51
 
 
Diego wrote:
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
but thats in space...
Um, where do you think the earth is?
Anyway.
Jumping up causes an impulse force in two directions. One, pushing the surface
you are standing on down, and one pushing you up. This will result in a small
force pushing the earth in some direction, while you will get a certain amount
of kinetic energy the other way. What happens next? The gravitational force
will pull you back down again. "Jolly good" you think. Now we get the same
energy applied in the same direction _twice_, because the landing is identical
to the takeoff force-wise. Sadly nobody thought about what happens when the
earth attracts you back. You "push" the earth as much with takeoff+landing as
you attract the earth gravitationally while in the air. Yes, YOU attract the
earth too. Even you mudders.
So, energy is transformed from adeninetriphosphate to heat in your muscles at
takeoff, some heat+sonic effects in the landing, but NO energy goes into
pushing earth into another orbit. Sorry.

 
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Malar
W i z a r d
2y, 229d, 12h, 16m, 31s old
Level:
51 [Wizard]
 
 
#4
08 May 2005 20:57
 
 
It would be easier to understand if you think gravitation as being tied to the
earth with a rubber band. Jumping up will flex the rubber band and 'pull' at
its mount point as much as it pulls you down.

 
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Malar
W i z a r d
2y, 229d, 12h, 16m, 31s old
Level:
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#5
08 May 2005 21:30
 
 
Malar wrote:
Diego wrote:
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
but thats in space...
Um, where do you think the earth is?
Anyway.
Jumping up causes an impulse force in two directions. One, pushing the surface
you are standing on down, and one pushing you up. This will result in a small
force pushing the earth in some direction, while you will get a certain amount
of kinetic energy the other way. What happens next? The gravitational force
will pull you back down again. "Jolly good" you think. Now we get the same
energy applied in the same direction _twice_, because the landing is identical
to the takeoff force-wise. Sadly nobody thought about what happens when the
earth attracts you back. You "push" the earth as much with takeoff+landing as
you attract the earth gravitationally while in the air. Yes, YOU attract the
earth too. Even you mudders.
So, energy is transformed from adeninetriphosphate to heat in your muscles at
takeoff, some heat+sonic effects in the landing, but NO energy goes into
pushing earth into another orbit. Sorry.
We all just have to jump to outer space - simple.

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Zulle
1y, 34d, 16h, 52m, 52s old
Level:
82
 
 
#6
09 May 2005 17:02
 
 
Zulle wrote:
Malar wrote:
Diego wrote:
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
but thats in space...
Um, where do you think the earth is?
Anyway.
Jumping up causes an impulse force in two directions. One, pushing the surface
you are standing on down, and one pushing you up. This will result in a small
force pushing the earth in some direction, while you will get a certain amount
of kinetic energy the other way. What happens next? The gravitational force
will pull you back down again. "Jolly good" you think. Now we get the same
energy applied in the same direction _twice_, because the landing is identical
to the takeoff force-wise. Sadly nobody thought about what happens when the
earth attracts you back. You "push" the earth as much with takeoff+landing as
you attract the earth gravitationally while in the air. Yes, YOU attract the
earth too. Even you mudders.
So, energy is transformed from adeninetriphosphate to heat in your muscles at
takeoff, some heat+sonic effects in the landing, but NO energy goes into
pushing earth into another orbit. Sorry.
We all just have to jump to outer space - simple.
Wouldn't it be fun if this jump day actually worked and shifted the earth from
it's orbit making it crash into the sun. Now if we're so eager to become
extinct by polluting and such why not just make it more interesting. Hope to
see you jumping.

 
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Luupy
1y, 200d, 3h, 57m, 39s old
Level:
47
 
 
#7
09 May 2005 22:05
 
 
Malar wrote:
Diego wrote:
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
but thats in space...
Um, where do you think the earth is?
Anyway.
Jumping up causes an impulse force in two directions. One, pushing the surface
you are standing on down, and one pushing you up. This will result in a small
force pushing the earth in some direction, while you will get a certain amount
of kinetic energy the other way. What happens next? The gravitational force
will pull you back down again. "Jolly good" you think. Now we get the same
energy applied in the same direction _twice_, because the landing is identical
to the takeoff force-wise. Sadly nobody thought about what happens when the
earth attracts you back. You "push" the earth as much with takeoff+landing as
you attract the earth gravitationally while in the air. Yes, YOU attract the
earth too. Even you mudders.
So, energy is transformed from adeninetriphosphate to heat in your muscles at
takeoff, some heat+sonic effects in the landing, but NO energy goes into
pushing earth into another orbit. Sorry.
awww, malar called me attractive. How sweet.

 
 
 
Tarquin
1y, 8d, 2h, 9m, 24s old
Level:
45
 
 
#8
08 May 2005 20:27
 
 
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
2 impacts, all that mass pushing the earth away at once, then second impact
all that mass landing at once. YOU ARE MORON JUMP DAY WILL WORK

- blackstar -

 
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Blackstar
206d, 3h, 38m, 36s old
Level:
66
 
 
#9
09 May 2005 11:31
 
 
Blackstar wrote:
Vince wrote:
Did a quickie calculation, if earth's mass would be 6*10^24 (got it off the
net) and taking a hypothetical figure that the mean weight of all the people
on earth would be 80kg (the american fatsos and the over billion starving 3rd
worlders balance each other out) I got something like this...
(6*10^12 * 80) / (6 * 10^24) = 8 * 10^-14.
Now if I'm correct about this, the effect of jump day would be about the same
that a 1kg rock would have on a 100 million ton object.
2 impacts, all that mass pushing the earth away at once, then second impact
all that mass landing at once. YOU ARE MORON JUMP DAY WILL WORK
Bunch of humans, making a futile attempt to escape earths gravity. Returned to
surface promptly. Energy toward changing earth trajectory ~= 0.

If I had all the money I'd spent on drink, I'd spend it on drink.
-- Sir Henry Rawlinson

 
 
 
Fizzl
C o d e s l a v e
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Level:
32 [Wizard]