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#1
25 Aug 2005 05:52
 
 
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)

 
 
 
Duke
A r c h w i z a r d
1y, 109d, 21h, 10m, 4s old
Level:
420 [Wizard]
 
 
#2
25 Aug 2005 06:02
 
 
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.


 
Rating:
6
Votes:
10
 
 
Duke
A r c h w i z a r d
1y, 109d, 21h, 10m, 4s old
Level:
420 [Wizard]
 
 
#3
25 Aug 2005 06:21
 
 
Duke wrote:
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.
Thats propably the most ridiculous reply I've seen for ages but luckily this
is the bs-group :D

BUT, seriously (as seriously as bs can be taken) - if I happen to be a
character who doens't idle, if I idle I go ld or quit - why punish me (and
others like me) with true age requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 300d age
I'd estimate I'll have totals around 1.4 gigs by then.

\o/

 
Rating:
2
Votes:
12
 
 
Cilwand
168d, 5h, 12m, 6s old
Level:
100
 
 
#4
25 Aug 2005 10:45
 
 
Cilwand wrote:
Duke wrote:
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.
Thats propably the most ridiculous reply I've seen for ages but luckily this
is the bs-group :D

BUT, seriously (as seriously as bs can be taken) - if I happen to be a
character who doens't idle, if I idle I go ld or quit - why punish me (and
others like me) with true age requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 300d age
I'd estimate I'll have totals around 1.4 gigs by then.
BUT, seriously - if I happen to be a character who doesn't exp - why punish me
(and others like me) with exp requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 365M
totals (or whatever) I'd estimate I'll have age around 20 years by then.


 
Rating:
12
Votes:
14
 
 
Mazzon
152d, 22h, 23m, 32s old
Level:
58
 
 
#5
25 Aug 2005 14:13
 
 
Cilwand wrote:
Duke wrote:
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.
Thats propably the most ridiculous reply I've seen for ages but luckily this
is the bs-group :D

BUT, seriously (as seriously as bs can be taken) - if I happen to be a
character who doens't idle, if I idle I go ld or quit - why punish me (and
others like me) with true age requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 300d age
I'd estimate I'll have totals around 1.4 gigs by then.

I don't quite see how you can call my reply ridiculous. Simple put what I
stated is a fact. You can call the requirement ridiculous but that is
something different. The game age is just a requirement no different than
another requirement.


 
Rating:
3
Votes:
5
 
 
Duke
A r c h w i z a r d
1y, 109d, 21h, 53m, 2s old
Level:
420 [Wizard]
 
 
#6
25 Aug 2005 14:19
 
 
Duke wrote:
Cilwand wrote:
Duke wrote:
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.
Thats propably the most ridiculous reply I've seen for ages but luckily this
is the bs-group :D

BUT, seriously (as seriously as bs can be taken) - if I happen to be a
character who doens't idle, if I idle I go ld or quit - why punish me (and
others like me) with true age requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 300d age
I'd estimate I'll have totals around 1.4 gigs by then.

I don't quite see how you can call my reply ridiculous. Simple put what I
stated is a fact. You can call the requirement ridiculous but that is
something different. The game age is just a requirement no different than
another requirement.
So, if one is good making exp and doesn't unnecessarily idle (i.e. can and
will quit the game when he's not actively playing) he cannot rebirth ?

Plus for example Zmud doens't have this 'idle' (=screen) option unless you
leave your computer on and that costs plain money,

Now I get it.

\o/

 
Rating:
-7
Votes:
13
 
 
Cilwand
168d, 5h, 25m, 57s old
Level:
100
 
 
#7
25 Aug 2005 14:28
 
 
Cilwand wrote:
Duke wrote:
Cilwand wrote:
Duke wrote:
Duke wrote:
Remove agelimits from rebirths or add true age to my char.
Now I can rebirth only once and I'll be having 3 rebirth exps a long before I
even hit 200d true age (ancient) since I happen to despise idling with screen
on.

Well some people despise earning their exp but don't mind the idling.
Personally, I think you already did the hard part ;)
Actually it also strikes me you didn't plan the rebirth very well. You knew
about age requirement, you knew you were earning exp and probably even knew
you were going for the rebirth. If you had taken the time to idle a little
each day say 6 months ago, then you'd have the game age by now. So simply
put, this is a great example of lack of planning.
Thats propably the most ridiculous reply I've seen for ages but luckily this
is the bs-group :D

BUT, seriously (as seriously as bs can be taken) - if I happen to be a
character who doens't idle, if I idle I go ld or quit - why punish me (and
others like me) with true age requirements ? And if I'm ever to reach 300d age
I'd estimate I'll have totals around 1.4 gigs by then.

I don't quite see how you can call my reply ridiculous. Simple put what I
stated is a fact. You can call the requirement ridiculous but that is
something different. The game age is just a requirement no different than
another requirement.
So, if one is good making exp and doesn't unnecessarily idle (i.e. can and
will quit the game when he's not actively playing) he cannot rebirth ?

Plus for example Zmud doens't have this 'idle' (=screen) option unless you
leave your computer on and that costs plain money,

Now I get it.
Since when rebirth became an ultimate goal of this game?

^o^

 
Rating:
10
Votes:
11
 
 
Favorit
S a g e
3y, 157d, 3h, 20m, 45s old
Level:
150 [Wizard]
 
 
#9
26 Aug 2005 00:38
 
 
Favorit wrote:
Since when rebirth became an ultimate goal of this game?
For a lot of people, even some power gamers, it is not. However, that is still
a silly question, since rebirth gets the best caster race in the game
(vampire), the best deftank race in the game (gargoyle), the biggest race in
the game (titan), the best habotank race in the game (demon). And this is
after major downtunes to the original rebirth system.

The ultimate question that everyone involved with this game needs to ask is
what place we have for the highbies. I seem to see that a lot of arches and
wizards think that highbies should be made fun of and harshly downtuned. I
dunno, to me it seems like a mistake in a community based game like this:
"You've played our game a lot...you really suck!"

Rebirth, both in it's super overpowered and current forms, was an attempt to
give old players something more to do besides idle or leave. It was one of the
only attempts I have ever seen made.
The reson midbie areas get raped so hard is that only midbie areas get coded
these days. A highbie area is just a really old area with an eq mob that is
50x tougher than it was ten years ago.

Uh, I lost my point. Actually, looking over my post, I seem to have lost
several points along the way. I could turn that into a metaphor, but I'm gonna
go drink some soda instead.

 
Rating:
14
Votes:
14
 
 
Presence
235d, 18h, 4m, 43s old
Level:
82
 
 
#10
26 Aug 2005 01:06
 
 
Presents wrote a long post here:

Well, you say it was the only attempt made to make highbies play. Tell me then
please, what would YOU code if you were a wiz to keep highbies entertained? Or
should we drop it all and concentrate on coding content for highbies instead
making this game more versatile by creating new various level areas, enhancing
our VAS or expanding the game equally for everyone?

^o^

 
 
 
Favorit
S a g e
3y, 157d, 13h, 21m, 9s old
Level:
150 [Wizard]
 
 
#11
26 Aug 2005 06:25
 
 
Favorit wrote:
Presents wrote a long post here:

Well, you say it was the only attempt made to make highbies play. Tell me then
please, what would YOU code if you were a wiz to keep highbies entertained? Or
should we drop it all and concentrate on coding content for highbies instead
making this game more versatile by creating new various level areas, enhancing
our VAS or expanding the game equally for everyone?
I was tempted to reply with one word: Conversion. On a more serious note, a
few players might remember that I already voiced one of my opinions on this
years ago, so I'll repeat myself: Massively increase the difference that level
makes, both in monsters and players.

Personal tunes should be based on a comparison of those two factors even more
strongly than by the number of times a monster has been killed, so that people
actually fight what they are tough enough to be fighting. I'm sure I've seen
this same idea regularly in ideas-wanted, it's not a new one, and it's been
implemented in many other games.

For once in the game's history, please be willing to copy an effective formula
from someone else. The problem was never tanks emptying duzelton, the problem
was 200M tanks finding duzelton a profitable place to empty. The current
personal tune is an improvement...but the fact of the matter is anyone can
lead an effective duzelton-like run of small monsters if they know the game's
areas well enough. Just ask any of my usual party members.

 
Rating:
5
Votes:
9
 
 
Presence
235d, 18h, 56m, 27s old
Level:
82
 
 
#12
26 Aug 2005 17:46
 
 
Presence wrote:
since rebirth gets the best caster race in the game
(vampire), the best deftank race in the game (gargoyle), the biggest race in
the game (titan), the best habotank race in the game (demon).
hahahahahaha

your a funny person

 
Rating:
-2
Votes:
5
 
 
Spid
1y, 331d, 0h, 49m, 37s old
Level:
90