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#1
02 Sep 2005 19:18
 
 
Blackstar wrote:
Why wiz someone who hasent played activley in close to a year,
whos every past idea he posted to news was disliked, and is
a little prick?

Well I guess we all make mistakes, wizing Kimvais was a big one.
I can forgive if the higher ups just make sure he dosent fuck up
bat like he did his own character =D
Luckily it's up to the arches to decide who to wiz and who to not to wiz and
not up to you.

Having a versatile personality has nothing to very little to do with the
ability to code, expand the game, and benefit to it otherwise than spamming
newsgroups and bearing the worst rating in game. See where I'm going?
I have no opinion one way or the other about Kimvais or his news posts,
however you're making no sense here Favorit.

If someone posts a lot of useless/bad/unpopular ideas, I would say it is
reasonable to worry that most of their implemented ideas are going to be
useless/bad/unpopular.

 
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Presence
236d, 16h, 48m, 21s old
Level:
83
 
 
#2
02 Sep 2005 19:38
 
 
Presence wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Why wiz someone who hasent played activley in close to a year,
whos every past idea he posted to news was disliked, and is
a little prick?

Well I guess we all make mistakes, wizing Kimvais was a big one.
I can forgive if the higher ups just make sure he dosent fuck up
bat like he did his own character =D
Luckily it's up to the arches to decide who to wiz and who to not to wiz and
not up to you.

Having a versatile personality has nothing to very little to do with the
ability to code, expand the game, and benefit to it otherwise than spamming
newsgroups and bearing the worst rating in game. See where I'm going?
I have no opinion one way or the other about Kimvais or his news posts,
however you're making no sense here Favorit.

If someone posts a lot of useless/bad/unpopular ideas, I would say it is
reasonable to worry that most of their implemented ideas are going to be
useless/bad/unpopular.
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.

 
 
 
Skyline
208d, 8h, 48m, 15s old
Level:
68
 
 
#3
02 Sep 2005 19:41
 
 
Skyline wrote:
Presence wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Why wiz someone who hasent played activley in close to a year,
whos every past idea he posted to news was disliked, and is
a little prick?

Well I guess we all make mistakes, wizing Kimvais was a big one.
I can forgive if the higher ups just make sure he dosent fuck up
bat like he did his own character =D
Luckily it's up to the arches to decide who to wiz and who to not to wiz and
not up to you.

Having a versatile personality has nothing to very little to do with the
ability to code, expand the game, and benefit to it otherwise than spamming
newsgroups and bearing the worst rating in game. See where I'm going?
I have no opinion one way or the other about Kimvais or his news posts,
however you're making no sense here Favorit.

If someone posts a lot of useless/bad/unpopular ideas, I would say it is
reasonable to worry that most of their implemented ideas are going to be
useless/bad/unpopular.
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.
It's that kind of thinking which will get you stabbed,
when your serial killer employee who had the superior
abilities to perform the job, flips out on you.
understand that logic?

- blackstar -

 
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Blackstar
238d, 0h, 51m, 12s old
Level:
77
 
 
#4
02 Sep 2005 19:43
 
 
Blackstar wrote:
Skyline wrote:
Presence wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Why wiz someone who hasent played activley in close to a year,
whos every past idea he posted to news was disliked, and is
a little prick?

Well I guess we all make mistakes, wizing Kimvais was a big one.
I can forgive if the higher ups just make sure he dosent fuck up
bat like he did his own character =D
Luckily it's up to the arches to decide who to wiz and who to not to wiz and
not up to you.

Having a versatile personality has nothing to very little to do with the
ability to code, expand the game, and benefit to it otherwise than spamming
newsgroups and bearing the worst rating in game. See where I'm going?
I have no opinion one way or the other about Kimvais or his news posts,
however you're making no sense here Favorit.

If someone posts a lot of useless/bad/unpopular ideas, I would say it is
reasonable to worry that most of their implemented ideas are going to be
useless/bad/unpopular.
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.
It's that kind of thinking which will get you stabbed,
when your serial killer employee who had the superior
abilities to perform the job, flips out on you.
understand that logic?
What if you don't give him a job and he flips out and stabs you for that
reason? ;)

 
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Nullnullatte
303d, 13h, 11m, 6s old
Level:
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#5
02 Sep 2005 20:12
 
 
Skyline wrote:
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.

Ad-hominem fallacies consist of instances where an argument is attacked based
on the source of the argument. To the best of my knowledge of logic, saying
that the quality of someone's future ideas may be similar to the quality of
their past ideas is not inherently fallacious.

In the past, X's ideas have been bad. Past performance often indicates future
performance. It follows that X's future ideas may tend to be bad.

 
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Presence
236d, 17h, 1m, 49s old
Level:
83
 
 
#6
03 Sep 2005 15:48
 
 
Presence wrote:
Skyline wrote:
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.

Ad-hominem fallacies consist of instances where an argument is attacked based
on the source of the argument. To the best of my knowledge of logic, saying
that the quality of someone's future ideas may be similar to the quality of
their past ideas is not inherently fallacious.

In the past, X's ideas have been bad. Past performance often indicates future
performance. It follows that X's future ideas may tend to be bad.
The problem is, you cannot compare this phantom "past performance" of kimvais
to his future performance in coding. Second, kimvais being a "bad" person,
does not still justfiy that person being a "bad" coder. That is the reference
to ad-hominem, even though this fallacy is used to describe arguments. Third,
is kimvais the code slave autonomous? Does not his ideas go through a
hierarchy, where it can be formed and fashioned into an approvable form? Your
little induction of predicting x's future is weak! For example, I as a child
performed horribly, does that mean under your argument that I as an adult will
perform badly? People grow, wisdom and experience is gained, we are
disciplined, and it follows for kimvais too. Your little induction gives no
chance for that.

 
 
 
Skyline
208d, 16h, 26m, 48s old
Level:
68
 
 
#7
03 Sep 2005 16:24
 
 
Skyline wrote:
Presence wrote:
Skyline wrote:
There is something called the ad-hominem fallacy. It does not follow to deny
a person's ability based on that person's personality. Logic.

Ad-hominem fallacies consist of instances where an argument is attacked based
on the source of the argument. To the best of my knowledge of logic, saying
that the quality of someone's future ideas may be similar to the quality of
their past ideas is not inherently fallacious.

In the past, X's ideas have been bad. Past performance often indicates future
performance. It follows that X's future ideas may tend to be bad.
The problem is, you cannot compare this phantom "past performance" of kimvais
to his future performance in coding. Second, kimvais being a "bad" person,
does not still justfiy that person being a "bad" coder. That is the reference
to ad-hominem, even though this fallacy is used to describe arguments. Third,
is kimvais the code slave autonomous? Does not his ideas go through a
hierarchy, where it can be formed and fashioned into an approvable form? Your
little induction of predicting x's future is weak! For example, I as a child
performed horribly, does that mean under your argument that I as an adult will
perform badly? People grow, wisdom and experience is gained, we are
disciplined, and it follows for kimvais too. Your little induction gives no
chance for that.
I'll tell you what. If you're willing, we'll take this thread to an impartial,
third party logician, and have him/her adjudicate as to which of us is makes
the most compelling case. To make it fun, I suggest we wager 20 smackers (USD)
on the outcome as to whose statements are more fair and accurate. Or the loser
can buy the victor an equivalent prize via amazon.
I'll promise take any loss with good nature if you can do the same.

 
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Presence
236d, 21h, 2m, 48s old
Level:
83
 
 
#8
02 Sep 2005 20:20
 
 
Presence wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Why wiz someone who hasent played activley in close to a year,
whos every past idea he posted to news was disliked, and is
a little prick?

Well I guess we all make mistakes, wizing Kimvais was a big one.
I can forgive if the higher ups just make sure he dosent fuck up
bat like he did his own character =D
Luckily it's up to the arches to decide who to wiz and who to not to wiz and
not up to you.

Having a versatile personality has nothing to very little to do with the
ability to code, expand the game, and benefit to it otherwise than spamming
newsgroups and bearing the worst rating in game. See where I'm going?
I have no opinion one way or the other about Kimvais or his news posts,
however you're making no sense here Favorit.

If someone posts a lot of useless/bad/unpopular ideas, I would say it is
reasonable to worry that most of their implemented ideas are going to be
useless/bad/unpopular.
I don't agree. Totally. All new wizards are acting under supervision of senior
wizards and/or arches. All the ideas have to be approved. Also approved by a
person who has a clue normally speaking. I.e. if I'm normally busy with the
non-fantasy part of the game I won't be taking part in deciding on a tune of
some eq mob or so... Thus you don't have to worry about Kimvais putting the
world upside down. We've seen many radical wizards (including myself in the
beginning) and BatMUD is still alive.

^o^

 
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Favorit
S a g e
3y, 165d, 9h, 7m, 16s old
Level:
150 [Wizard]
 
 
#9
02 Sep 2005 21:09
 
 
Favorit wrote:
I don't agree. Totally. All new wizards are acting under supervision of senior
wizards and/or arches. All the ideas have to be approved. Also approved by a
person who has a clue normally speaking. I.e. if I'm normally busy with the
non-fantasy part of the game I won't be taking part in deciding on a tune of
some eq mob or so... Thus you don't have to worry about Kimvais putting the
world upside down. We've seen many radical wizards (including myself in the
beginning) and BatMUD is still alive.

Like that makes me feel safe, one drunken night of approvals and suddenly all
races have five asses. :)

I do repeat that I have no special opinion about Kimvais.

 
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Presence
236d, 17h, 1m, 49s old
Level:
83
 
 
#10
02 Sep 2005 21:08
 
 
Quote:
Favorit wrote:
I don\'t agree. Totally. All new wizards are acting under supervision of senior
wizards and/or arches. All the ideas have to be approved. Also approved by a
person who has a clue normally speaking. I.e. if I\'m normally busy with the
non-fantasy part of the game I won\'t be taking part in deciding on a tune of
some eq mob or so... Thus you don\'t have to worry about Kimvais putting the
world upside down. We\'ve seen many radical wizards (including myself in the
beginning) and BatMUD is still alive.

Like that makes me feel safe, one drunken night of approvals and suddenly all
races have five asses. :)

I do repeat that I have no special opinion about Kimvais.
In that case I want ass slot!
Also I want some uber eq I can wear in those ass slots!

-Hannah

 
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Hannah
335d, 18h, 38m, 10s old
Level:
100
 
 
#11
02 Sep 2005 21:12
 
 
Hannah wrote:
Quote:
Favorit wrote:
I don\'t agree. Totally. All new wizards are acting under supervision of senior
wizards and/or arches. All the ideas have to be approved. Also approved by a
person who has a clue normally speaking. I.e. if I\'m normally busy with the
non-fantasy part of the game I won\'t be taking part in deciding on a tune of
some eq mob or so... Thus you don\'t have to worry about Kimvais putting the
world upside down. We\'ve seen many radical wizards (including myself in the
beginning) and BatMUD is still alive.

Like that makes me feel safe, one drunken night of approvals and suddenly all
races have five asses. :)

I do repeat that I have no special opinion about Kimvais.
In that case I want ass slot!
Also I want some uber eq I can wear in those ass slots!

-Hannah
I can hardly wait when we get the ass slots and maybe some uber eq that
provides bonuses for the black hole spell.

 
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Darol
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