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#1
27 Jan 2007 07:04
 
 
Hey crew.

Been browsing the news lately after some time of hiding in the dusk, and I\'ve
noticed a lot of the player\'s discontent with the recent tunes (world map yada
yada I suck so horribly can\'t make exp yh yh yh, must play some other game).
No, I haven\'t been able to try this new tune out, and this is not the point.
The point is that i have a query that is somewhat queer and also a bit gay.
Just the way you enjoy questions and queries.

I am wondering if the amount of raw cash (\"donations\") are
reflecting the discontent amongst the playerbase as of late, to such an extent
that you could actually say that you\'ve made a change to the game that the
players don\'t approve of, and this can be noted by lesser/fewer/smaller
donations, compared to the earlier (BOLD AND BEAUTIFUL) years.

Hell, I\'ve been away for far too long, and there was much rejoicing(!), I
can\'t even remember who is responsible for BAT.RY economy these days, even
though I probably shook your hand a million times, but I imagine its a guy
with a growing beard. Beard or no beard, the answer to this query would be
greatly appreciated.

Your vitun hurriperkele, Gotrek.

 
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Gotrek
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#2
27 Jan 2007 12:12
 
 
The short answer: not really.

As there was a US donatepool a little while ago, that has obviously had
some effect on overseas donates but that's nothing unexpected.

As for the discontent of the playerbase, the more I look at the situation,
the more I realize that the discontent has been there all along and there
is probably nothing we can do about it. I don't think any single tune (or
even a combination of tunes) is the root cause behind it, but people find
it easier to have something to blame their discontent on.

Again, I don't think any recent change has made the game unplayable or
bad, and I think we'd be much worse off if nothing did change (i.e. all
would remain stagnant).

-- Gore

 
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Gore
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#3
29 Jan 2007 21:08
 
 
party say Got Heal From: (Halle)
party report Infravision Expires. [16m38s]
party say Got Heal From: (Elwyk)
I have noticed a major swing of positive tunes in the game since the new maps.
The game is much more 'playable' than when it was first changed. I like that
more ferries are planned to be implemented (already are?), but still don't see
how speeding them up can possibly negatively effect anything in the game. I
like to lead for hours and hours, and if i could get a party on a ferry and
get to the next continent in less than 5 minutes, it would really kick ass.
Also, i'd like to see the 'secret' shops that pay more tuned and major cities
on each continent made into 'trade hubs' which pay prime rates. Player cities
could pay a percentage of this rate according to how many player's ships call
that city 'home port'. Lastly, as far as donates go, I just wanted to give
some feedback from my perspective. I love batmud, I like the changes and have
faith more positive tunes are coming. I would really like boon, and many of my
friends here would like me to have boons as well. I once asked amarth about
batmud's willingness to divulge it's expenditures so I know i'm not buying
durand a new motorcycle, and I got back was that 'no one has ever bought
themselves a motorcycle with donated funds'. If I saw what the money was used
for I'd be more willing to give you mine in support of the mud and my future
gaming.

Kheldor Keystroke, King of all Nubu.

 
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#4
29 Jan 2007 21:18
 
 
Kheldor wrote:
party say Got Heal From: (Halle)
party report Infravision Expires. [16m38s]
party say Got Heal From: (Elwyk)
I have noticed a major swing of positive tunes in the game since the new maps.
The game is much more 'playable' than when it was first changed. I like that
more ferries are planned to be implemented (already are?), but still don't see
how speeding them up can possibly negatively effect anything in the game. I
like to lead for hours and hours, and if i could get a party on a ferry and
get to the next continent in less than 5 minutes, it would really kick ass.
Also, i'd like to see the 'secret' shops that pay more tuned and major cities
on each continent made into 'trade hubs' which pay prime rates. Player cities
could pay a percentage of this rate according to how many player's ships call
that city 'home port'. Lastly, as far as donates go, I just wanted to give
some feedback from my perspective. I love batmud, I like the changes and have
faith more positive tunes are coming. I would really like boon, and many of my
friends here would like me to have boons as well. I once asked amarth about
batmud's willingness to divulge it's expenditures so I know i'm not buying
durand a new motorcycle, and I got back was that 'no one has ever bought
themselves a motorcycle with donated funds'. If I saw what the money was used
for I'd be more willing to give you mine in support of the mud and my future
gaming.

Kheldor Keystroke, King of all Nubu.

As a player here, I obviously dont have any official word on this, but I'll
point out that there are a few things that list bat's expenses...if you check
'help hardware', it'll show a history of the hardware we've had. Also there
have been expenses developing the new batclient, which once it has triggers
looks like it'll be quite nice. And there have been some costs for the various
official cons (which I look at as a bit of a reward to players/coders/etc).
Without knowing how the numbers exactly add up, it does seem that a good chunk
of money from donates is being spent on fairly worthwhile causes as far as i
can tell...

 
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Ooga
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#5
30 Jan 2007 01:00
 
 
I guess this reply should officially come from the treasurer, but
hopefully Amarth won't shoot me :)

On December 4th I posted a little about what we've been using the
funds for (news display inform 587). Basically it can be divided
roughly into four groups: external development projects, arranging
conventions, servers and hosting fees and administrative fees.

The external development projects include for example, work on the
new bat client (through Mythicscape), and purchasing graphics for
the client and bat's website.

The convention part has included two large conventions: our 15th
birthday party at Kaivohuone, and the Vegas convention. I don't
think it's likely that we'll see this significant convention
funding until possibly the 20th birthday of BatMUD.

Servers and hosting fees are quite selfexplanatory. From time to
time we need new hardware. Also, unlike alot of smaller MUDs, we
are running BatMUD from a commercial hosting provider, which
naturally has its fees.

Administrative fees include taxes, meeting expenses, possible
legal fees, fees to the financial auditors etc. This is basically
the necessary evil of any organisation, though we've tried to
keep it fairly low (we don't organise meetings at the Bahamas,
though I think that might prove quite popular).

Note that all bat's finances are audited by an independant,
professional auditor. We also pay our taxes as required by finnish
laws and submit our financial statement to the finnish
authorities.

Hopefully this answers your question at least to some extent.

-- Gore

 
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Gore
A r c h w i z a r d
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Level:
600 [Wizard]