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#1
13 Mar 2009 02:56
 
 
Instanced areas is a bad idea for zoo because frankly there are already way
too many zoo items out there. This will just flood the market. Frankly, and
the rapists here know it, Zoo is way too easy for how good eq it hands out.
There is nothing wrong with that, in fact its quite awesome that starting
players can get some very good eq there for very little time and effort.
However, people can just do it over and over again and sell for cash
...furthermore the incidence of the good items dropping is so LOW that it just
has to be RAPEd.

IMHO the only way to stop easy eq from flooding the market is personal or
global rape prots. Personal are the fairest as they allow people who play in
other timezones equal opportunity to obtain the eq.

That or the mobs should be tuned harder, but I think everyone agrees that is a
poor fix.

 
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Blayke
N e w b i e  H e l p e r
2y, 79d, 16h, 0m, 12s old
Level:
100
 
 
#2
13 Mar 2009 03:24
 
 
Blayke wrote:
Instanced areas is a bad idea for zoo because frankly there are already way
too many zoo items out there. This will just flood the market. Frankly, and
the rapists here know it, Zoo is way too easy for how good eq it hands out.
There is nothing wrong with that, in fact its quite awesome that starting
players can get some very good eq there for very little time and effort.
However, people can just do it over and over again and sell for cash
...furthermore the incidence of the good items dropping is so LOW that it just
has to be RAPEd.

IMHO the only way to stop easy eq from flooding the market is personal or
global rape prots. Personal are the fairest as they allow people who play in
other timezones equal opportunity to obtain the eq.

That or the mobs should be tuned harder, but I think everyone agrees that is a
poor fix.
I've seen zoo done only once, and when time allows I'll definately try my hand
in leading it on the future. This "easy" difficulty you mentioned seemed quite
fair, even perhaps somewhat daunting to me. There is obviously a gap between
skills, equipment and boon since I will not consider this future endeavour to
be a walk in a park or any other of such sillyness.
Now, since we can supposedly think that zoo is raped too much and market is
flooded by the 'good' equipment, would it be just and fair for zoo to be made
harder for everyone just before I'll have my go at it, while doing nothing
about the fact that zoo items have already skyrocketed both in commodity and
reputation?
I'll admit it. I crave for most of those items, and I'll doubtlessly find
about 80% of the items useful, perhaps even 'good'. If I, and my valiant party
manage to ever uncover anything good from that Legendary Place I will without
lying or giving a bad oath state here and now that I will not sell such nice
items because I will most likely use them myself. Is this kind of viewpoint
vastly alien, or why do I smirk at people yelling that something is too hard
or too easy and oh my god stop people from running that area, my beloved
equipment is losing it's value since there is more than one piece of it in
game?
I am also saddened a bit about the fact that you, as american, can't really
compete against europeans when it comes to reaching zoo first. It would
definately do much more good for everyone to simply put a vastly longer
personal rapeprot than instead making the whole area a whole fistfuck harder
in general and completely shut it off from guys like me, and adversely make it
only doable for people like you, who already have so very much power and items
at their disposal, even to the point where they have made the fall of Big Bad
Legendary Monsters like Osenseida, Tiamat and Asmodeus seem somewhat trivial
and routinely.
Not all of us are hardened veterans with core, liver and lungs of darksteel.
Please, leave something for us to see, in it's original form.

 
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Endure
N e w b i e  H e l p e r
1y, 219d, 4h, 42m, 50s old
Level:
93
 
 
#3
13 Mar 2009 04:45
 
 
Blayke wrote:
Instanced areas is a bad idea for zoo because frankly there are already way
too many zoo items out there. This will just flood the market. Frankly, and
the rapists here know it, Zoo is way too easy for how good eq it hands out.
There is nothing wrong with that, in fact its quite awesome that starting
players can get some very good eq there for very little time and effort.
However, people can just do it over and over again and sell for cash
...furthermore the incidence of the good items dropping is so LOW that it just
has to be RAPEd.

IMHO the only way to stop easy eq from flooding the market is personal or
global rape prots. Personal are the fairest as they allow people who play in
other timezones equal opportunity to obtain the eq.

That or the mobs should be tuned harder, but I think everyone agrees that is a
poor fix.
So your real problem with zoo is not that you can't run it from boot, but that
you think people get their stuff too easily from there. Instancing would solve
the timezone problem for good. You could also still use rapeprot there, maybe
even raise it a bit because now several parties could do it in one day. The
amount of eq coming to game would remain the same.

 
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Torc
2y, 80d, 3h, 7m, 25s old
Level:
57
 
 
#4
13 Mar 2009 14:53
 
 
My personal opinion of all this is fairly simple. If the area is so popular
that people are pushing and shouting to get there first it is out of tune and
should be given the heavy end of the nerfbat.
Just my opinion..

 
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Malar
W i z a r d
5y, 50d, 1h, 19m, 18s old
Level:
75 [Wizard]
 
 
#5
13 Mar 2009 21:04
 
 
Malar wrote:
My personal opinion of all this is fairly simple. If the area is so popular
that people are pushing and shouting to get there first it is out of tune and
should be given the heavy end of the nerfbat.
Just my opinion..
I have done zoo some times , of wich most have been after 5pm eet...two times
have been a few hours before boot. As with many eq and/or quest monsters , if
you cant do it one boot due to it being fucked/done allready , try next boot?
I do agree that zoo has some nice items , and that the monsters arent insanely
hard, but then again , so are a number of other monsters/areas also. And after
doing zoo several times i still lack half the items from there , and some
items i still havent seen. So wouldnt say that game is flooded by zoo items.
There are propably more beholder bracelets and asmo rings in game than for
example zoo bracelets. But what ever you wizards and archwizards decide to do
, we mortals will propably learn to live with it (and whine as usual). And
sorry about my poor grammar , im sick atm and my brain isnt working at full
speed.

 
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Marrow
1y, 174d, 6h, 57m, 34s old
Level:
80
 
 
#6
14 Mar 2009 04:11
 
 
Malar wrote:
My personal opinion of all this is fairly simple. If the area is so popular
that people are pushing and shouting to get there first it is out of tune and
should be given the heavy end of the nerfbat.
Just my opinion..
I propose you simply add a level limit of 80 to the area, so blayke cant get
in and has to buy eqs off lower level players!

 
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Ottie
1y, 109d, 3h, 4m, 19s old
Level:
85