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i dont feel that Ulath and Gores letters are the scorn your talking about. The
scorn came from players during the event. enough said. onward thru the fog!
++ Shmuzin Thunderfuck ++
scorn came from players during the event. enough said. onward thru the fog!
++ Shmuzin Thunderfuck ++
Rating:
3
Votes:
5
I just want to say, I donated to the event, i also was a newbie participant.
Thank you Shmuzin i appreciate everything you do/did.
I think Shmuzin did a wonderful job, I also believe alot of the "Big Prize"
items possibly came from Shmuzin when others did not come to the call. But I
dont think that's lack of appreciate.
I think that's just lack of player base, and just going to throw this out
there, and it may get me flamed/ban or who knows, but to any wiz who wants to
state support for the game, keeping it running and what have you, without a
player base there's not a game either. You want bodies to play the game, keep
the newbies coming and support people who help your newbies, i'm back from a 7
year hiatus and i will say i was very proud to call myself a newbie again.
Next time a server needs upgrading dont open donations for the money, open
your own pockets if keeping it running is that important.
Thank you Shmuzin i appreciate everything you do/did.
I think Shmuzin did a wonderful job, I also believe alot of the "Big Prize"
items possibly came from Shmuzin when others did not come to the call. But I
dont think that's lack of appreciate.
I think that's just lack of player base, and just going to throw this out
there, and it may get me flamed/ban or who knows, but to any wiz who wants to
state support for the game, keeping it running and what have you, without a
player base there's not a game either. You want bodies to play the game, keep
the newbies coming and support people who help your newbies, i'm back from a 7
year hiatus and i will say i was very proud to call myself a newbie again.
Next time a server needs upgrading dont open donations for the money, open
your own pockets if keeping it running is that important.
Rating:
-16
Votes:
22
Linkless wrote:
I just want to say, I donated to the event, i also was a newbie participant.
Thank you Shmuzin i appreciate everything you do/did.
I think Shmuzin did a wonderful job, I also believe alot of the "Big Prize"
items possibly came from Shmuzin when others did not come to the call. But I
dont think that's lack of appreciate.
I think that's just lack of player base, and just going to throw this out
there, and it may get me flamed/ban or who knows, but to any wiz who wants to
state support for the game, keeping it running and what have you, without a
player base there's not a game either. You want bodies to play the game, keep
the newbies coming and support people who help your newbies, i'm back from a 7
year hiatus and i will say i was very proud to call myself a newbie again.
Next time a server needs upgrading dont open donations for the money, open
your own pockets if keeping it running is that important.
Thank you Shmuzin i appreciate everything you do/did.
I think Shmuzin did a wonderful job, I also believe alot of the "Big Prize"
items possibly came from Shmuzin when others did not come to the call. But I
dont think that's lack of appreciate.
I think that's just lack of player base, and just going to throw this out
there, and it may get me flamed/ban or who knows, but to any wiz who wants to
state support for the game, keeping it running and what have you, without a
player base there's not a game either. You want bodies to play the game, keep
the newbies coming and support people who help your newbies, i'm back from a 7
year hiatus and i will say i was very proud to call myself a newbie again.
Next time a server needs upgrading dont open donations for the money, open
your own pockets if keeping it running is that important.
I'm not as active as I used to be, but to give you some numbers to juggle
around.
I've been a freelancer IRL for the past, say, 7 years. Of those 7 years, I've
been active in bat for, say, 4 of them. My hourly rate varied through those
years from 60 to 180 EUR per hour. Amount of hours I've spent here, because I
felt obliged to fix bugs, implement new stuff and in general keep the existing
playerbase (no matter how small it was) happy were at least 10 per week. That
adds up to 520 hours per year, to 2080 hours, to (take an average hour rate of
110 EUR) 228800 EUR I could have billed to my customer but didn't since I was
spending time in front of my computer investing my time in bat, and not in
work.
How about them pockets now?
^o^
Rating:
16
Votes:
16
Favorit
A r c h w i z a r d
9y, 135d, 4h, 52m, 5s old
Level:
600 [Wizard]
First of all, I am not saying anything about the time and effort you and the
rest of the wizard community is putting into the game, Favorit. We all
appreciate it alot, because we enjoy this game and we need people like you to
keep the contents living and interesting.
But I really don't think it's fair to calculate the way you do in your
example. I mean, hopefully most of that time was spent during evenings,
weekends or whatever times you hadn't been working anyway. It's not like you
called your customers and said "sorry I can not work this week because I have
to code for BatMUD". Now if that is actually the case, I both salute and
lament you...
My character age is 2y 101d at the moment, roughly 20,000 hours. It's not like
if I hadn't played BatMUD all these years, someone would have just put a bunch
of millions in my bank account.
And again, this is not in any way critiscism against you or any of the work
you do here, just my two cents about calculating BatMUD hours as "otherwise
working hours".
rest of the wizard community is putting into the game, Favorit. We all
appreciate it alot, because we enjoy this game and we need people like you to
keep the contents living and interesting.
But I really don't think it's fair to calculate the way you do in your
example. I mean, hopefully most of that time was spent during evenings,
weekends or whatever times you hadn't been working anyway. It's not like you
called your customers and said "sorry I can not work this week because I have
to code for BatMUD". Now if that is actually the case, I both salute and
lament you...
My character age is 2y 101d at the moment, roughly 20,000 hours. It's not like
if I hadn't played BatMUD all these years, someone would have just put a bunch
of millions in my bank account.
And again, this is not in any way critiscism against you or any of the work
you do here, just my two cents about calculating BatMUD hours as "otherwise
working hours".
Rating:
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Votes:
16
This is silly. He isn't saying he "gave up" this amount of money, just that
he's put in an incredible number of hours, and if this was a regular job it
would have paid roughly x for the equivilent amount of work.
he's put in an incredible number of hours, and if this was a regular job it
would have paid roughly x for the equivilent amount of work.
Rating:
5
Votes:
9
Caveron wrote:
First of all, I am not saying anything about the time and effort you and the
rest of the wizard community is putting into the game, Favorit. We all
appreciate it alot, because we enjoy this game and we need people like you to
keep the contents living and interesting.
But I really don't think it's fair to calculate the way you do in your
example. I mean, hopefully most of that time was spent during evenings,
weekends or whatever times you hadn't been working anyway. It's not like you
called your customers and said "sorry I can not work this week because I have
to code for BatMUD". Now if that is actually the case, I both salute and
lament you...
My character age is 2y 101d at the moment, roughly 20,000 hours. It's not like
if I hadn't played BatMUD all these years, someone would have just put a bunch
of millions in my bank account.
And again, this is not in any way critiscism against you or any of the work
you do here, just my two cents about calculating BatMUD hours as "otherwise
working hours".
rest of the wizard community is putting into the game, Favorit. We all
appreciate it alot, because we enjoy this game and we need people like you to
keep the contents living and interesting.
But I really don't think it's fair to calculate the way you do in your
example. I mean, hopefully most of that time was spent during evenings,
weekends or whatever times you hadn't been working anyway. It's not like you
called your customers and said "sorry I can not work this week because I have
to code for BatMUD". Now if that is actually the case, I both salute and
lament you...
My character age is 2y 101d at the moment, roughly 20,000 hours. It's not like
if I hadn't played BatMUD all these years, someone would have just put a bunch
of millions in my bank account.
And again, this is not in any way critiscism against you or any of the work
you do here, just my two cents about calculating BatMUD hours as "otherwise
working hours".
hours I work - I don't work
So technically, while you're right that Ididn't blow off customers due to Bat coding, hypothetically speaking, should I
have spent each and every of those hours into coding something paid, I would
have gotten paid for it. I'm paid per hour, not per month as people that are
working "for the company" do.
So it's kinda two-fold. Indeed, it's not that straight forward as I calculated
in reality, but not as far away from it as you'd think.
^o^
Favorit
A r c h w i z a r d
9y, 144d, 10h, 55m, 13s old
Level:
600 [Wizard] © 1990-2024 Balanced Alternative Techniques ry. All rights reserved. BatMUD™ is a registered trademark of Balanced Alternative Techniques ry.
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