Hm, I read a ´koan' about some zen student or somesuch, whose wife was always very stingy. The guy complained to his master (some famous guy or something) and the master wentin his home one night and swung his glenched fist to the biathch. The biatch was surprised and asked what was it all about. The master asked what would the biatch call it if the hand was always like that. Biatch answered 'deformed' or somehing... then he put his hand as a plate, you may call it shuto if you want,- what would you call it if it was like this?.... - An other kind of deformation, was the answer, and then teh master leaved and since then the wife helped his husband in his troubles but kicked his ass occassionally or something... Just came to my mind that if it happened in ordinary finnish family the woman would get his arse spanked by his husband or the wife would force him to sign off from that freaky religion and strange diddelidoo's (my very personal translation for 'hihhuli' and then would be hapily forgotten...