The only joy left in the game for me was doing and getting new eq. Alas, Eq is like politics. I am straight forward person and if I have a problem then I'll let you know about it. This doesn't grant you many friends in rl or mud, but the ones you do get are 'true.' So, with so little eq being lead these days and being passed over for 'friends', the game has grown boring as hell. It's damn near impossible to get members to learn anything, I've tried. As Freld said, getting a party together destroys motivation! The desire to rebirth has always been there, but always pushed back because of the next 'big' eq party: Vallu, Tiamat(which I was passed over on), Sera, ect. Well not anymore.