How to not play nun a.k.a Saikou has trouble attending prayers.
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[18:25]:Saikou (nun): At Cauldron =S
[18:26]:Niele (nun): Best acquire a crystal that makes the room teleportable
so you can come visit!
[18:27]:Saikou (nun): Haven't seen a single merchant and just started, so
we'll see
[18:42]:Saikou (nun): Zero crystalls in the first level =S
[18:55]:Abigail, the abbess [nun]: Air and Saikou have decided to skip prayer,
and were penalized for their absences.

... little later ...
[16:31]:Toper (nun): prayer
[16:32]:Toper (nun): once i get there
[16:32]:Saikou (nun): At cauldron
[16:32]:Saikou (nun): So, can't make it for at least an hour =/
[17:04]:Abigail, the abbess [nun]: Saikou and Merioli have decided to skip
prayer, and were penalized for their absences.

... little later ...
[12:33]:Toper (nun): *is, anyway trying to run 2-3 more today
[12:34]:Saikou (nun): Gonna head to cauldron, so I can't make it to prayer for
4 - 5 hours =/

... little later ...
[13:48]:Toper (nun): prayer inc
[13:49]:Saikou (nun): Why always at this time when I'm in the Cauldron? =S
[14:20]:Abigail, the abbess [nun]: Saikou has decided to skip prayer, and was
penalized for her absence.

... little later ...
[13:55]:Saikou (nun): Once again you start a prayer while I'm in Cauldron =/
[13:56]:Saikou (nun): Would be better to do them either right after boot or in
the evening
[13:56]:Resin (nun): yes, lets plan prayers on your cauldron runs
[13:57]:Resin (nun): i'd say pretty much every day prayer is run around this
time
[13:57]:Resin (nun): well, until max is reached
[13:57]:Saikou (nun): Most people who go here either go during the day (like
me) or in the evening so doing prayers right after boot before anyone gets up
to doing anything would be the best for everyone and in the evenings at a time
most people haven't yet started anything would be another good time
[13:59]:Saikou (nun): Yeah, I've noticed, and I've said many times that it
would be better to run it earlier
[13:59]:Resin (nun): but im not on ealier...so thats not a good time
[14:00]:Saikou (nun): Well, whatever then I'll just miss it everyday
[14:01]:Resin (nun): i'd say, u need to expand your playing abilities
[14:02]:Saikou (nun): Would be if one could do so without fucking himself over
[14:03]:Saikou (nun): You can, but you still lose all temporary bonuses and
infernal energy
[14:03]:Saikou (nun): And not every merchant sells those
[14:05]:Saikou (nun): I did ask Shina if he could make it so nuns wouldn't get
fucked over by going to prayer, but he basically just said "fuck nuns" =P
[14:17]:Ecky [nun]: if cauldrons prevent you from attending prayers, don't go
there before 7 prayers done for the week -> problem solved. you miss cauldron
runs on monday-wednesday but can run thursday - sunday without worries.
[14:18]:Saikou (nun): Which would on average be -15+ megs exp per week =S
[14:19]:Ecky [nun]: playing nun involves attending prayers. if you're not
interested in playing nun, but instead insist on playing chaos cauldron, maybe
you should not be a nun in the first place.
[14:20]:Saikou (nun): Normally it's not a problem doing both, since I managed
just fine to attend prayers and run Cauldron before, but the prayers have been
pushed back an hour or two after boot, which coincides with the time I'm
usually already here
[14:21]:Anatea (nun): +1 for banishment of saikou!
[14:21]:(nun): Anatea tempts Sister Ava over to the dark side.
[14:21]:Resin (nun): just taking notes
[14:22]:Anatea (nun): btw shina says 'fuck nuns' because it's a far more
brilliant guild than any he's ever been able to come up with.
[14:22]:Saikou (nun): That's probably true
[14:23]:Saikou (nun): It's just annoying that you have to either decline from
making more exp in Cauldron or shoot yourself in the foot by attending prayer
and losing your "progress"
[14:24]:Saikou (nun): It's not a problem if you've only just entered and
manage to get a crystal from the first merchant, but if you've been here for
over an hour ... =/
[14:24]:Abigail, the abbess [nun]: Saikou has decided to skip prayer, and was
penalized for her absence.
[14:26]:Toper (nun): ive been to cauldron and attended the prayer
[14:26]:Saikou (nun): I've done so a couple of times too
[14:27]:Toper (nun): so its doable and no wondrr shin doesnt care
[14:28]:Ecky [nun]: i'd guess shina sees it as a nun problem, not a cauldron
problem.
[14:28]:Saikou (nun): That's exactly it
[14:29]:Saikou (nun): He just said that it's a nun guild mechanic

... and then, eventually this ...
[15:30]:Saikou (nun): Btw, what is the max amount of prayers in a week?
[16:27]:Resin (nun): 7
[16:27]:Saikou (nun): Why not run one every evening of the week?
[16:27]:Resin (nun): let me give you a sugggestion
[16:28]:Saikou (nun): Go ahead
[16:28]:Resin (nun): the guild is not run around your schedule
[16:28]:Saikou (nun): Did I say it was? I asked why not run one every evening
[16:28]:Resin (nun): typically first 3 days, 2-3 prayers are run
[16:28]:Resin (nun): each day
[16:28]:Saikou (nun): As in it would have a fixed time
[16:28]:Resin (nun): it pretty much is fixed now
[16:29]:Lozlo (nun): there has to be enough nuns online, synod members to run
it, etc
[16:29]:Saikou (nun): Except it's not if I sometimes make it and others I
don't
[16:30]:Resin (nun): my guess, prayer will be run in a couple hours orso
[16:30]:Saikou (nun): By that time I'm done with Cauldron so that's perfectly
fine
[16:31]:Saikou (nun): Can you say a more accurate time for the first prayer of
the day, so that I can try to hold off on going to Cauldron until after it's
run?
[16:32]:Lozlo (nun): again, depends on synod members who run it, and nuns
online, so will never be a specific exact time.
[16:32]:Saikou (nun): =S
[16:33]:Lozlo (nun): if this is your challenge with nuns, youre in for a rough
time.
[16:33]:Saikou (nun): It pretty much is the only challenge, if a guild
restricts one's grinding in a game based on grinding it's pretty annoyingh
[16:34]:Resin (nun): well, maybe broaden your scope of game
[16:34]:Resin (nun): and not just cauldron
[16:35]:Saikou (nun): That's the thing, if I try to go to Cauldron as soon as
I can, I miss the prayer, if I try to hold off until the prayer I may not have
time to actually do anything once I get there =/
[16:35]:Resin (nun): hence, maybe try other areas
[16:36]:Saikou (nun): Other areas don't let one run exp as leisurely, since
you have to switch areas all the time, not as nice to actually grind =P
[16:36]:Lozlo (nun): there are daily rep caps for many other things, monks,
cooking, etc. if everything was open and easy like tarm and druid without rep
or anything, the guilds wouldnt be interesting.
[16:36]:Lozlo (nun): so youre complaint is that the game isnt easy enough?
[16:37]:Saikou (nun): No, my complaint is that one cannot grind one's own
preffed way at one's preferred time
[16:38]:Resin (nun): sadly, you will be quite frustrated with nuns
[16:38]:Saikou (nun): And just because a guild has a rep cap, doesn't mean
that you can't grind to that cap daily
[16:40]:Saikou (nun): I actually like the guild, it's this one area that's
annoying, and the fact that it's the best place to grind exp for hours on end
with a pretty good rate, since on other areas you have to plan on where to go
next and in which order and hope that no one else ran them before you
[16:41]:Lozlo (nun): so play the game of cauldron, or play the game of batmud.
your choice :)
[16:42]:Saikou (nun): If I had someone willing to run exp with me daily for 4
- 6 hours, then sure I could run other areas too, but unfortunately Drakh is
pretty much the only one willing, but he gets bored running exp anywhere else
unless the rate is actually very good =(
[16:43]:Saikou (nun): And I get bored way too fast to try yelling for party

... and finally ... 
[13:28]:Saikou (nun): All prayers for this week done?
[14:32]:Saikou (nun): -.-
[15:02]:Abigail, the abbess [nun]: Saikou has decided to skip prayer, and was
penalized for her absence.